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Warren and Thomas, tough day for the D-Line

August 17th, 2011 - 11:30am by mark_cooper

This didn’t post the other day as it ended up a draft and wanted your feedback on it and also the new naming of the Stadium. I like Sports Authority and all they do for kids programs around the mtero area and was happy to see a sporting name associated with the Broncos.

Pulled this from ESPN site and heard it around the lunch hour.

Marcus Thomas (strained pectoral) and Ty Warren (torn triceps) won’t be back on the field anytime soon.

On Thomas, the Broncos made the former Patriots star interior lineman the centerpiece of their free agent class by signing him to a two-year, $8 million deal that included a $2.5 million bonus and $1.5 million salary for 2011.

They also re-signed their own free agent defensive tackle, Marcus Thomas, at $1 million for one year.

Both were injured within five minutes of each other when they lined up with the first-team defense during a 9-on-7 drill Monday.

Thomas’ chest muscle wasn’t completely torn off the bone like Elvis Dumervil’s was when he suffered a season-ending injury early in last summer’s training camp. So, the Broncos are hoping he’ll be ready to play by the time their season starts Sept. 12.

Ty Warren is out indefinitely. The Broncos are hoping he won’t need surgery and can return to the field at some point this season, although that would mean going with a 52-man roster for a while.

With the hip from last year and and now the tricep, if it needs surgery might end Ty’s career…not sure and hope not or that would be a tough way to leave the league.

I’m still wondering how much/many injuries we will see this year with the limited contact and reps the new CBA allows???

Coopster
Go Broncos

28 Responses to “Warren and Thomas, tough day for the D-Line”

  1. marshisboss says:

    I injury talk on the blogs the other day and the guys start dropping we cant take any more injuries

  2. marshisboss says:

    1 not I

  3. killerkod says:

    Hey Coop,

    I hope we’ve seen the brunt of our injuries for the year and I wish the remaining players can stay healthy.

    Unfortunately, our team just doesn’t have the depth to be able to recover from key positions. But you never know who might just step up and suprise you.

  4. killerkod says:

    Any word on Decker’s foot?

  5. brian_schneider says:

    As many have stated, injuries are part of the game….an un-wanted part but “big” part none the less. I only played football in high school but during the “offseason” we were conditioning and lifting and getting ourselves ready for camps and 2-a-days. Are some of these guys not taking that well of care of themselves in the offseason. The coaches and staff would rather you not play a pickup game of b-ball “outside of school” which is understandable, but are they taking just as big of risk by not doing any type of training until the “last minute?” Seems lately the injury bug found a mate and reproduced, and they’re biting us.

  6. sndvl says:

    I thought it was a 54 man roster now?

  7. seweatherman1 says:

    Appreciate the info Coop. Seems that the injuries are getting pretty serious on the training field. I wonder if the league and the players thought of this when they were fighting over the cba. I doubt it. Cut down on the amoount of practices per day, and the amount of full contact practices with pads during the week. Seems the players don’t want to practice much anymore. Wonder what they want to do for all of the millions they are receiving? Maybe instead of full contact practice, let’s issue some flags. That way, when you get the flag, he is considered tackled. Maybe that will cut the injuries down some.

  8. killerkod says:

    The only upside……….which is nothing to be happy about, mind you……….is that if the player goes down in training camp, at least the replacement player has more time to adjust and practice with the 1st team and hopefully that will translate into a better performance in the regular season. It also lets the coaching staff plan better. That’s better than being thrust into that situation mid-season.

  9. seweatherman1 says:

    Brian, the way I am looking at this, when the teams started their individual practices, they concerned themselves with conditioning drills and the such. Any trainer will tell you that conditioning drills are o.k., but if not done correctly or done in excess, it will have the opposite affect. It will ultimatetly cause more serious injuries. I am thinking that this is the case here. Our players were doing these conditioning drills, ect. and possibly tightened up to much for the immediate abuse that the shortened training camp schedule has produced.

  10. BeastFromEast92 says:

    Glad to hear from you Coopster,seems like when we finally get some quality depth at DT,bam,2 of our best DT’S went at virtuality the same time……….and so it goes!

    I really hope Warren can come back this year,I think with him and Bunkley at DT,with Thomas and Vickerson as backups,we would have a great Dline,especially with Doom and Ayers rushing the edges!

    As far as the stadium name goes,I really don’t care,but hey it’s all about the benjamins!!!
    It will always be Mile High Stadium to me!!!

  11. socalbigbroncofan says:

    Thats why we should have drafted a dt. At least one. Now what.

  12. armadillo_orton says:

    Just a thought… I wonder if all the extra weight training and possible HGH/steroid use (there was no drug testing during the lockout) are the cause of alot of these pre-season injuries? The teams need to hire a yoga specialist and spend some serious time stretching before putting the pads on. There are stretches you can do for each muscle group. Let’s bring football into the 21st century. Another thought, why can’t the NFL teams hire some extra coaches and have the 2nd-3rd team guys practice against each other while the starters are getting reps? While Orton is doing 7 on 7 drills, Tebow/CASE should be on field 2 running 7 on 7 with the backups. Since practice time is limited LET’S MAXIMIZE every minute. No more standing on the sidelines throwing footballs. Come on this is the PRO’s. Let’s make some changes to the new nfl practice environment. LET’S TRY TO DEVELOP some young talent. Just a thought, but we all know that in the NFL change is slow…..

  13. seweatherman1 says:

    What you are proposing sounds good, but it will have to wait on a new cba I would think. That is pertaining to more practice than what they currently are getting.

  14. brian_schneider says:

    If Warren’s tricep needs surgury the Broncos should just release him. They obviously weren’t sold on Thomas, so after this season if he gets to play they might think about releasing him as well. Then maybe look into drafting a premier DT.

  15. DenverOranges says:

    Sure seems like we get bit by the injury bug real hard every year.

  16. killerkod says:

    Hey armadillo_orton……why does your handle have orton’s name in it when you’ve declared your disdain for the man?

    Is your last name orton too? lol

  17. brian_schneider says:

    Or does armadillo_orton mean something mean LOL!

  18. royalbroncofan1 says:

    Small excerpt from Broncos – Camp Confidential – Bill Williamson/espn

    Relying on the Rookies:

    “The Broncos will also be looking to rookie Rahim Moore to shore up Denver’s secondary.One of the most exciting aspects of this camp for Denver has been the play of its rookies. The Broncos thought they drafted well in April, and after three weeks, they are thrilled with what they see”.

    “I think we had an excellent draft,” Fox said.

    Added Dumervil: “This is the best group of rookies I’ve seen here in awhile.”

    “Leading the way is Miller, who was the No. 2 overall draft pick. The Texas A&M product has been as advertised. Teammates rave about his speed, explosiveness and his ability to make plays. They expect instant success”.

    “Second-round pick Rahim Moore is vying for a starting spot with Kyle McCarthy at safety and has shown he is ready for NFL play. Right tackle Orlando Franklin, middle linebacker Nate Irving, tight end Julius Thomas and safety Quentin Carter are all expected to be major contributors. This is exactly what this 4-12 team needed — a solid group of youngsters to build around after a couple of shaky years of drafting by McDaniels.”

  19. royalbroncofan1 says:

    Camp Confidental cont –

    OBSERVATION DECK

    Safety Brian Dawkins may be turning 38 this year, but the Broncos are still getting a lot out of him. He works well with Fox’s staff, and his leadership has been uncanny during camp.

    Defensive end Robert Ayers has been getting chances to break out in camp, but he has been slow to show progress. He was the No. 18 overall pick in the 2009 draft.

    Receiver Brandon Lloyd has been slowed by swelling in his knee. Still, the team expects him to contribute. Lloyd had a breakout season in 2010 — 77 catches for 1,448 yards.

    The second-round draft class of 2009 has been a bust. Tight end Richard Quinn is hurt and could be the odd man out. Safety Darcel McBath has yet to develop, and cornerback Alphonso Smith (who Denver traded its 20101 first-round pick for) was shipped out to Detroit last year. This was supposed to be the nucleus of future success, and Denver hasn’t seen results.

    The Broncos’ passing game struggled in red-zone and third-down situations. That has been a point of emphasis during this camp.

    Veterans Joe Mays and Mario Haggan are competing to hold off Irving at middle linebacker.

    Franklin has struggled in pass projection. Still, the team is committed to him.

    Denver is excited about second-year receiver Eric Decker. Expect Decker to get a chance to contribute a lot.

    The Broncos like what they have in new tight end Daniel Fells. He is solid as a receiver and as a blocker. He should help in both phases of the game.

    Right cornerback Andre’ Goodman has been steady, and the team is confident he can play well in 2011.

    Second-year center J.D. Walton continues to improve, and he has shown strong leadership for a young player.

  20. royalbroncofan1 says:

    Camp Confidential cont –

    THREE HOT ISSUES

    1. Defense: Rookie Von Miller will need to play well right away if Denver’s defense is going to improve this season.1. Fix the defense. While the Tim Tebow-Kyle Orton competition has garnered much attention, the real key issue in Denver’s camp has been the defense. This unit was ranked No. 32 in the NFL last season and was generally awful in every major statistical category. Fox and his defensive staff have taken a hands-on approach to improve this group, which is a mix of veterans and youngsters.

    If the reconstructed defensive front plays well and rookie linebacker Von Miller makes an instant impact, this group has a chance to improve quickly. It seems to be working early. Denver’s defense has been capable in camp and it looked solid against Dallas in the preseason opener Thursday. Injuries to defensive tackles Ty Warren (who signed to a two-year, $8 million deal) and Marcus Thomas create more uncertainty at a key spot for Denver. It needs to get help there by Kevin Vickerson, Brodrick Bunkley, Jeremy Jarmon and Derrick Harvey in the rest of the preseason. Warren could be out for a long period and Thomas will miss the rest of the preseason.

    2. Clarity at quarterback: The Broncos’ camp has been about getting the first-team ready to go with Orton. There is no question Orton is the starter now. If the team struggles, Tebow could enter the picture, but players love playing with Orton and the team thinks he currently gives them the best chance to win now.

    Of course, the lack of clarity was team-induced. It spent the immediate days after the lockout trying to trade Orton to Miami. After that fell through, Orton took control of the offense quickly and has given Denver no choice but to make him the starter, TebowMania be dammed.

    3. Establish a ground game: Although Fox is a defensive-minded coach, he has a strict philosophy on offense. He believes in stuffing the ball down an opponent’s throat and killing the clock. Denver struggled to run the ball under McDaniels, and Fox said adding a veteran tailback was paramount.

    The Broncos jumped on Willis McGahee when he was cut by the Ravens. Expect McGahee and third-year player Knowshon Moreno to combine for plenty of carries. They have worked well in camp, and they combined for 40 yards on six carries in the preseason opener at Dallas. This camp has been spent getting these two involved in the offense as much as possible.

    Nothing really new here… same issues discussed by bay & other bloggers.

  21. 07elway says:

    Hey Coopster!

    Not the news I wanted to hear coming back from CO… 2 big injuries on defense of all places. Gee whiz!! Just can’t catch a break. Makes me mad! I had good thoughts about our D this year, I hope the rest of the D doesn’t let these injuries break them as a team more than it already has. Our defense is sad enough without the injuries.

    I like the new name better but I think every Bronco fan is in agreement that they should just go back to Mile High Stadium. Just has that perfect ring to it.

    GO BRONCOS 2011!!!!

  22. seweatherman1 says:

    What is wrong with naming the stadium Sports Authority Mile High Stadium, or Mile High Sports Authority Stadium? I think that has pretty good rings to them. It keeps our Mile High Stadium in there with their Sports Authority money.

  23. randy2191 says:

    its sports authority stadium at mile high isnt it?

  24. weareamr says:

    good read RBF1.

  25. armadillo_orton says:

    armadillo refers to what Orton does in the face of a pass rush. He falls to the ground in fetal position like an armadillo.

  26. mark_cooper says:

    Now that was pretty funny “armadillo”…….not that I agree but pretty funny stuff, see you all on the Bills post….that’s waht always keeps this interesting…LOL

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