Comments on: Tough Sunday for Broncomaniacs

By: broncofanatic66

broncofanatic66 — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:55:34 +0000

Definitely have a good point amschroed89!!

By: broncofan9137

broncofan9137 — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:28:38 +0000

Hiring John Fox for the Bronco head coach was a big mistake. Look what he did with the Panthers last year. His offensive scheme doesn’t work. It may have worked 15 yrs. ago but not in todays pro football. All the other teams already know what his game plan is because he has no variety in his scheme either that or McCoy just does not know how to call plays. Is it the coaching or do we have 2 QB’s that failed miseribly. I think its the coaching & the coaches offensive scheme. I’m afraid that if we try all our QB’s that every one of them will fail because of what I’ve said about the coaches & their scheme. John I think you made your first mistake as VP.

By: amschroed89

amschroed89 — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:18:09 +0000

I am not a Tebow lover. I but I am looking for a W no matter who is under center. But, I saw several things that as a team raised serious question marks for me. And possibly made me think we are farther off than I thought. First of all, Tebow is young and is going to have trouble with coverage’s. I did think there could have been better play calling. I didn’t know the game plan, and I don’t know what Fox is telling McCoy, but I have doubted the play calling all year. In the games I saw Orton hardly ever threw long and now that’s all Tebow is being asked to do in these past two games. I understand the 8 man in the box situation, but there has to be some three step drops that can be thrown against an 8 in the box.

They got away from some things that in my humble opinion are some of Tebow’s strengths. He does have problems with getting the ball out on time but he did have a few good three step drops in the second half. But, they went away from it. I remember only seeing one bootleg and Tebow had to throw that away. Why not try that again? What about a straight roll out? Change the point of release, to make the defense read something. They only threw 2 screens that I saw. They tried play action pass, 7 step drop all day from the pocket A.) that isn’t Tebow strength, being from the pocket and B.) is not playing to your strengths against Detroit’s front 7 or even 4 for that matter. I just saw him try to make long throws in duress all game and I thought would have been extremely difficult for any QB much less a player like Tebow. If you watched the game, Stafford had shorter completion points to his receivers and a more diverse play calling, (screens, three step drops ect) than Tebow had and he is the better QB.

On Tebow’s fumble Detroit rushed 4 guys and three of them hit him before he had a chance to get rid of the ball. Quick release or not, that is unsat for the offensive line. The whole game was frustrating and raised more questions for me than answered. Next week, the O-line will be pushed around again because they can pick up a blitz (as seen against Green Bay) but they don’t do well against a physical defensive line. I hope there is a better game plan that helps Tebow out and sets him up for success. I dont think there isn’t a QB on the roster that could execute what was tried on Sunday.

Go Broncos

By: pokoya

pokoya — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:26:07 +0000

It is great to read a little bit about your experiences, Mr. Cooper, and I, for one, deeply appreciate your willlingness to share a bit about them. It doesn’t feel good to lose games, but after a season, I found for myself, as a player, losses go away, eventually, and the question you are left to answer is how do you feel about yourself, and the way you played for the year. Having grown up a Bronco fan, I learned that football is not a game where you expect wins, but is a game of strategy, implemented by discipline and will, matching and countering an adversary’s strength, speed and determination, with one’s own. It is difficult for a team to maintain the continuity required to build a winning team. It is a process that can literally require a lifetime. As far as winning Championships, I know that as a longtime Bronco fan, winning a single Championship was something special and privileged — my attitude was a Championship win was something to be grateful towards for all time — and then, to win a second Championship, back to back — there weren’t any words to describe it, although, to be honest, I was more conceited about it back then, than retrospective.

By: mark_cooper

mark_cooper — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:58:36 +0000

risky305, you’re right about some folks and BeastFromEast92, on the Rams…do you think they wouldn’t take him even with Bradford?? Or make a trade to improve their pick position within the first round? Thnk about that one?

sndvl, I thinkwe took some steps back on the offensive and defensive lines and this is about the time of year that other teams in the League start to get a read on wat your tendancies are and hae enough stats on you down and distance, efficiencies, blitz package tendancies, etc, so if your not changing things upit can get ugle kinda like the year we went 6-0 and never won another game.

Now defenses are going to make us pass and stack the line of scrimmage and stop the run. McGahee’s out so we have our work cut out for us and will really know how good our offensive line will ro won’t be. Simple fact i we are short players and depth and until that gets fixed we will stay in the middle to bottom of the pack and that takes patience, time and new/more players.

We’ll need to create a plan around Tebows strengths and weaknesses and he needs playing time in the heat of the battle just like ALL young players do.

Tough love but we can improve as a team while that happens.

Coopster
GO BRONCOS!!

By: Joy(ful)

Joy(ful) — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:27:10 +0000

Mark Cooper, THANK YOU for speaking some reality into all the blame game I’ve been reading. Patience is needed like you said, as well as our SUPPORT while they grapple through new approaches. We don’t expect a baby to instantly walk. They will take steps and stumbles along the way. Same here! This team is worth supporting rather than crucifying. All the negativity accomplishes precisely nothing…except perhaps harming their ability to keep at it when it’s brutally hard.

Let’s show them some patience as fans. They need hard work, creativity, patience and support to do this thing. They’ve got my support.

GO BRONCOS.

By: papacy808

papacy808 — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 03:23:01 +0000

Someday everything will all make perfect sense. So for now, laugh at the haters, smile through the tears, and keep reminding yourself that everything happens for a reason… Risky305… well said… Go Broncos… I will always bleed orange

By: broncofan9137

broncofan9137 — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:40:05 +0000

First of all I was disappointed when they didn’t hire Swenson as head coach. Swenson is a true Bronco. Has played for & coached for the Broncos for many years, they should have given him a chance. Foxes offensive scheme has no variety. My two sons & myself sit in the living room & take turns calling the plays & 70% of the time we are right. If we know whats going on then I’m sure all the other teams know also. Is it that the pass routes are taking to long to develop or are the receivers not getting open or Tebow just can’t find them. My opinion is alot of bad play calling & the pass routes are to deep & we have no one out in flat to throw to if the rush is to strong. All teams are going to stop the run (of course I think I can stop Moreno & I’m 60 yrs. old)
& then speed rush Tebow on passing downs. I think we should shorten our pass routes & have an outlet receiver in the flat so Tebow can get rid of the ball quicker. Of course I don’t think Fox or Mccoy are smart enough to think of that. The receivers need to get open quicker & stop going for the long pass all the time. With Moreno the run game suck.

By: BroncosLAX

BroncosLAX — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:59:55 +0000

What I’ve been saying all day but dont forget the Tebow Luck Smith comparisson made lol

By: carnagebronc

carnagebronc — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:39:37 +0000

Some of these posts are laugable….the difference between Elway and Tebow….uhhh….TALENT! No one didnt think Elway could play. Look at where he was drafted. Tebow was a fluke first round pick. Second rule in the nfl were different then. Pass interference was not called. You could hit the quarterback. The game was totally different not slanted for the offensive players to succeed. Playcalling is predicated on the defense that is played. You cant run screens with eight men in the box. U r gonna get the back killed. I watched the game….when we caled screens Detroit read the back. Bubble screens work when the cb is playing off….they were in press man all game….not the pass to call. Slants require the qb to be accurate….we threw a slant on the goal line….100 yards later……you get the point. Tebow’s problem is he cannot throw…..Cam is six starts in and he looks good….Dalton….Ponder…look good. Bradford did well last year…so stop babying Tebow….either he bette r play better or ride the pine….all the wishy washy TEBOW FANS….who dogged Orton because he threw a pick six….tebow threw one..fumbled one and all….the difference Orton was good enough to recover from mistakes…LEADERSHIP? No one asked to get traded because Orton was starting…..did Champ look happy out there…listless performance all around….bbut people said TEBOW wouldnt let that happen….he needs to play like an NFL qb…nnot a college one with 19 NFL players on the roster…..people forgot about that at Florida…..POUNCEY TWINS??? HARVIVN? MURPHY????? How could he fail…We are not out of it in a very mediocre division….unless we keep this Tebow experiment continue to fail. In the NFL one man cannot make u win…..but he sure can make u lose.