Hey has anyone checked out andrew masons stuff on the carolina website. His stuff is called mason’s minutes. It’s funny how much better it is reading about your own team, i got bored trying to read just one of his posts on there. Oh well…….

P.S. jazzyfrizzle, why did you pick that name.

And why go to a “what if” topic that would of ment the Vikings would of made the playoffs lets not walk down this road any further. Heres a what if for ya What if we drafted Willis mcGahee or larry johnson instead of George Foster, in the first round of 2003. We could of still made the portis bailey trade and we still would have had one of the best running games in the game man the draft can break your heart lookin at it from hind sight

Clintons production was what mike wanted it to be, if he would have stayed in denver he could play for 15 years and put up consistent big numbers. And I already said that CP’s numbers in washington dont touch his numbers in denver, thats established you people continue to throw that out as a way to say “look he’s only average” My whole argument is about what has happend in a denver broncos uniform, 5.5 yards a carry no one has touched it, and no other backs and tandems have not got it done, once again if where getting it done why arnt they here??? answer is because mike wants a number 1 guy, who can dominate, take over games, be game breakers.

And heres a list of other backs who have had over 5 ypc since CP left

Tatum bell in 2004 had 5.3 on 75 carries, in 2005 he had 5.3 on 173 carries. Ron Dayne also had 5.1 on 53 carries. After that season every one thought Tatum would have a break out year in 2006 as the starting RB, mike anderson was let go and picked up by the ravens, ron dayne was also let go and went to houston. What happend that year Tatums average droped to 4.4 ypc only scored 2 touchdowns and allowed a undrafted rookie in mike bell to take his carries away, a mike bell who the following year was beat out by another undrafted rookie in selvin young which forced him to play FB. What does this prove, that mike wants a number #1 back if not he would of kept every thing like it was, and he wants that #1 back to have over 5 yards a carry. Tatum couldnt get it done as a #1 so he’s gone. But make no mistake 4 ypc is good in the NFL but after seeing what CP did in denver he knows his system can do better.

Any of that sound like a succes??

Now its Selvins turn once again im hopeing he can keep that average, and actually make it go up with an improved O-line and a more consistent offense. But its not too often in the NFL where a #2 RB looks as good the next year as the #1 RB, i hope selvin ends up being one of the few exceptions.

oh yeah heres a little more of those other backs and tandems “getting it done” leaving 2007 out of the argument: 2006 TD’s by RB=11, 2005=22 thats the year we went to the AFC championship, pretty good year, 2004=12, 2003=17 CP had 14 of them. There where 2 years where a stable of backs couldnt match what Clinton did.

CP set the standard here not TD because mikes not gona give any one 400 carries, and mike is willing to sacrifice good production (22 td’s 2500yards) from a tandem of backs if he thinks he has a #1 that will give him what he wants, and what he wants is over 5 yards a carry in less than 300 carries. and game breaking ability.