Comments on: In the Green Room with Floyd http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/ Wed, 22 May 2013 00:21:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-6/#comment-95618 baylinorcrush Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:05:06 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95618 imready, funny, I am a 35 year fan also, started late, I was 21 then. Anyhow, I do agree about your pain about how McD handles his players. I have said on many occasions that the man can be very sly, a bit arrogant and lacks maturity in everyday human psychology. He is supposedly great at the x's and o's, but he has very little feel for human contact. It's not unusual for a man who is sort of a brainiac, somehow they let the important things in life pass them by, and I think that's kind of what McD is going through at this point. The good thing is listening to his end of the year season recap, he seems to be genuine when he says he realizes he did a lot of things wrong and means to correct them. Let's remember that this is his first year as a HC and he came into it with all the best intentions in the world, but with the pressure of the job taking a stranglehold on him, he ended up panicking a bit and found himself doing all kinds of wrong stuff with both the players and the media, and it seriously backfired, but as I say, the good thing is I think he realizes it. We have been joking around this last month saying he needs to go to a HC class in Argentina for a while, clear his head up and learn what is really important in his job, not just the x's and o's, but how to learn to become a respected leader by all of his players while selling them onto his team concept without alienating anyone. In short, it's all about maturing in the job, like maturing in life, maybe a fourth of his players are older than he is, hence the extremely difficult task of establishing himself as their leader. I am going to give him carte blanche for one more year, but he needs to show sizable improvement off the field in his leadership role and the human element of the job, and on the field by keeping his team focused the entire year and getting into the playoffs. Anything short of that will be very hard to accept, considering he has been given all the liberty to chose his own staff and own players, and since he parted with Nolan it is now more than ever his way and his way only and if he doesn't perform, it probably is not going to work out. In short, I am disappointed at his first year as a coach, but I would expect that from someone who has never been one, difference is now this is his 2nd year, he is no longer a rookie and I am not going to be cutting him that much slack anymore. I can't wait to see how much growing up he does, and I truly hope he can turn us into a winning team again. I am not overly optimistic as in life I know we are what we are and we don't necessarily change, but he needs to smoothen out a lot of his rough edges if he wants any shot at succeeding. He seriously underestimated the age factor coming into this job, repeatedly saying it was not a factor at all, well, yes, it is, and if you know that it is then you can take the appropriate actions to improve areas where you lack maturity and experience and make sure it doesn't stand in the way of your goals. If you don't know that it is a factor, or refuse to see that it is a factor, well, we saw what happened.... imready, funny, I am a 35 year fan also, started late, I was 21 then. Anyhow, I do agree about your pain about how McD handles his players. I have said on many occasions that the man can be very sly, a bit arrogant and lacks maturity in everyday human psychology. He is supposedly great at the x’s and o’s, but he has very little feel for human contact. It’s not unusual for a man who is sort of a brainiac, somehow they let the important things in life pass them by, and I think that’s kind of what McD is going through at this point.

The good thing is listening to his end of the year season recap, he seems to be genuine when he says he realizes he did a lot of things wrong and means to correct them. Let’s remember that this is his first year as a HC and he came into it with all the best intentions in the world, but with the pressure of the job taking a stranglehold on him, he ended up panicking a bit and found himself doing all kinds of wrong stuff with both the players and the media, and it seriously backfired, but as I say, the good thing is I think he realizes it.

We have been joking around this last month saying he needs to go to a HC class in Argentina for a while, clear his head up and learn what is really important in his job, not just the x’s and o’s, but how to learn to become a respected leader by all of his players while selling them onto his team concept without alienating anyone. In short, it’s all about maturing in the job, like maturing in life, maybe a fourth of his players are older than he is, hence the extremely difficult task of establishing himself as their leader.

I am going to give him carte blanche for one more year, but he needs to show sizable improvement off the field in his leadership role and the human element of the job, and on the field by keeping his team focused the entire year and getting into the playoffs. Anything short of that will be very hard to accept, considering he has been given all the liberty to chose his own staff and own players, and since he parted with Nolan it is now more than ever his way and his way only and if he doesn’t perform, it probably is not going to work out.

In short, I am disappointed at his first year as a coach, but I would expect that from someone who has never been one, difference is now this is his 2nd year, he is no longer a rookie and I am not going to be cutting him that much slack anymore. I can’t wait to see how much growing up he does, and I truly hope he can turn us into a winning team again. I am not overly optimistic as in life I know we are what we are and we don’t necessarily change, but he needs to smoothen out a lot of his rough edges if he wants any shot at succeeding. He seriously underestimated the age factor coming into this job, repeatedly saying it was not a factor at all, well, yes, it is, and if you know that it is then you can take the appropriate actions to improve areas where you lack maturity and experience and make sure it doesn’t stand in the way of your goals. If you don’t know that it is a factor, or refuse to see that it is a factor, well, we saw what happened….

]]> By: imready http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-6/#comment-95616 imready Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:06:45 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95616 baylinorcrush, thanks for taking my post as it was written and not getting defensive like a lot of guys here do when a fan doesn't agree with everything going on in Broncoland. Just a couple more thoughts with what goes thru my mind as a Bronco fan for 35+ years. The thing that upset me about the Shannahan's firing were the number of injuries the last 2-3 years he coached. I don't know that you can really blame him for that and I don't see how anyone could say it didn't affect the performance of the team.I would agree with anyone who suggested he was narrow minded when it came to defense and he should have given over the defense to a guy like M. Nolan, who really knows his stuff. I just couldn't hardly watch the "prevent defense" that always seemed to prevent the Broncos from winning. If you are gonna be a control freak like Shanny , you got to know your stuff and in my opinion, defense was not something he knew. McD's lack of respect for the players is what really turned me against him. He made a big deal , and rightly so, of his team concept. Then he blind sided some players when the team was 6-0 and the guys didn't trust him anymore, that's how I see it anyhow. Hard to be at your best when you're always looking over your shoulder. That and he is suppose to be and offensive minded coach. The offense stunk it up, hard to believe with all the talent on that side of the ball. I never was a Belichzk fan and McD has the same approach. Look what's going on with the Pat's, pissed off players wanting out of the Patriot's. Those guys risk their lives out on that field , they deserve some respect, they aren't just a piece of meat. baylinorcrush, thanks for taking my post as it was written and not getting defensive like a lot of guys here do when a fan doesn’t agree with everything going on in Broncoland. Just a couple more thoughts with what goes thru my mind as a Bronco fan for 35+ years. The thing that upset me about the Shannahan’s firing were the number of injuries the last 2-3 years he coached. I don’t know that you can really blame him for that and I don’t see how anyone could say it didn’t affect the performance of the team.I would agree with anyone who suggested he was narrow minded when it came to defense and he should have given over the defense to a guy like M. Nolan, who really knows his stuff. I just couldn’t hardly watch the “prevent defense” that always seemed to prevent the Broncos from winning. If you are gonna be a control freak like Shanny , you got to know your stuff and in my opinion, defense was not something he knew.
McD’s lack of respect for the players is what really turned me against him. He made a big deal , and rightly so, of his team concept. Then he blind sided some players when the team was 6-0 and the guys didn’t trust him anymore, that’s how I see it anyhow. Hard to be at your best when you’re always looking over your shoulder. That and he is suppose to be and offensive minded coach. The offense stunk it up, hard to believe with all the talent on that side of the ball. I never was a Belichzk
fan and McD has the same approach. Look what’s going on with the Pat’s, pissed off players wanting out of the Patriot’s. Those guys risk their lives out on that field , they deserve some respect, they aren’t just a piece of meat.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95550 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:09:26 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95550 In a perfect world for the draft I would add Brandon Graham to your list, #55 for the North at the Senior Bowl who was an absolute terror and would be awesome opposite of Doom as a DE/OLB. But all that is a moot point right now because the list will have to be adjusted to make up for who we aquire in FA. In a perfect world for the draft I would add Brandon Graham to your list, #55 for the North at the Senior Bowl who was an absolute terror and would be awesome opposite of Doom as a DE/OLB.

But all that is a moot point right now because the list will have to be adjusted to make up for who we aquire in FA.

]]> By: codybleedsorangeandblue http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95548 codybleedsorangeandblue Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:56:19 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95548 You are probably right but you cant tell me that everyone would be happy with a draft that saw us taking McClain, Williams, Pouncey, Gerhart, and LeFevour You are probably right but you cant tell me that everyone would be happy with a draft that saw us taking McClain, Williams, Pouncey, Gerhart, and LeFevour

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95544 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:06:47 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95544 I would like us to end up with our first and a couple of 2nd and a couple of 3rd round picks, that's where the best values are, not top dollar money for near top of the board talent, IMO. I would like us to end up with our first and a couple of 2nd and a couple of 3rd round picks, that’s where the best values are, not top dollar money for near top of the board talent, IMO.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95543 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:56:49 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95543 another one, meaning another 1st round pick. another one, meaning another 1st round pick.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95542 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:55:20 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95542 Cody, only problem with your board Bowlen will never want to pay for a #10/11 and a 12 in the same year. Even if we get another one, I bet we would trade down, because we need lots of help, not just a few good ones. Cody, only problem with your board Bowlen will never want to pay for a #10/11 and a 12 in the same year. Even if we get another one, I bet we would trade down, because we need lots of help, not just a few good ones.

]]> By: codybleedsorangeandblue http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95540 codybleedsorangeandblue Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:44:15 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95540 I am a little late to the dance but here it goes. Mawae is 39...why would we want him? How about we trade Scheffler to the Redskins for their 2nd round pick and either nab Pouncey there or trade both of our second rounds to someone deep in the first to nab Pouncey there. Trade Marshall to the Dolphins for their 1st rounder and a 3rd. Then we can do this #10/#11 - McClain #12 - Williams Late first or Redskins 2nd from earlier suggestion - Pouncey Our 3rd - Gerhart Dolphins 3rd - LeFevour Also, I agree with baylin about promoting Phifer. Actually I posted that well back in blog history. If you search long enough you will find it! Goodness, after reading that, those picks made me happier than a pig in mud. Now McD will probably do something like this: #10/#11 - Dez Bryant #12 - Tebow late first/2nd rounder - McCoy 3rd rounder - Bag of footballs from the Saints thinking their voodoo magic will help win LOL I am a little late to the dance but here it goes.

Mawae is 39…why would we want him?

How about we trade Scheffler to the Redskins for their 2nd round pick and either nab Pouncey there or trade both of our second rounds to someone deep in the first to nab Pouncey there. Trade Marshall to the Dolphins for their 1st rounder and a 3rd. Then we can do this

#10/#11 – McClain
#12 – Williams
Late first or Redskins 2nd from earlier suggestion – Pouncey
Our 3rd – Gerhart
Dolphins 3rd – LeFevour

Also, I agree with baylin about promoting Phifer. Actually I posted that well back in blog history. If you search long enough you will find it!

Goodness, after reading that, those picks made me happier than a pig in mud. Now McD will probably do something like this:

#10/#11 – Dez Bryant
#12 – Tebow
late first/2nd rounder – McCoy
3rd rounder – Bag of footballs from the Saints thinking their voodoo magic will help win

LOL

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95536 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:52:45 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95536 Instead of chanting here "Go Redskins", may I recommend "Go to the Redskins"? LOL. Instead of chanting here “Go Redskins”, may I recommend “Go to the Redskins”? LOL.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/jsaccomano/in-the-green-room-with-floyd/comment-page-5/#comment-95535 baylinorcrush Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:50:25 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=6518#comment-95535 Hope you enjoyed the fact that all I threw out there is wins and losses, as per your request. Hope you enjoyed the fact that all I threw out there is wins and losses, as per your request.

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