Wide Receivers Coach Tyke Tolbert will serve as the keynote speaker at the annual Colorado State football coaches clinic in Fort Collins on April 9.
Tolbert, who is entering his first season coaching the Broncos wideouts after stints with the Panthers, Bills and Cardinals, will join the CSU staff in sharing their expertise with coaches from every level at the clinic.
The clinic also includes exclusive access to the Rams’ spring practice that morning at Sonny Lubick Field at Hughes Stadium, lunch and an evening social.
For more information, click here or contact the CSU football office at 970-491-6131 .
Von Miller? We’re switching back to a 4-3 defense you know
Broncofreak30, I`ll take Luke Stocker then if Kyle Rudolph is gone. But in a later round though. Just saying bro. Is it April yet?
If you listen to Fox’s interview from the other day, he said that Miller would fit very well in his system and that he would probably start him at the SAM position. Miller has also already said that he could play in both the 3-4 and 4-3. Miller is one of those players that will straight up produce no matter what position he is at, along with Peterson. Those two players have produced more consistently than any other players in the draft.
Yea Strand…if we wanted Stocker then we would have to take him in the 3rd round I believe.
Problem is I think that we will take a RB with one of our 2nd round picks which I think will be a big mistake. We have Moreno and White and will for sure pick up another back when FA comes about. I think we should for sure either take two DL in the 2nd or a DL and LB or DL/LB and S.
Whether or not we take a DL with our 1st overall pick, we need two nasty and great potential DT in this draft. I would love to see one of those players be Austin just due to his talent and that he was 1st round talent potential!
I say for sure take Paea if he is there with our 1st 2nd round pick. If he is gone then pick Wilson if he is there. If he isn’t there then take Austin then either Moore or Nevis with our other pick!!
Too much defensive talent in the 1st 2 rounds in my opinion to take a RB or offensive player!!
Freak30, Personally I wouldn`t want to draft a RB in this draft. We need lots of defense in this years draft. I like your projected prospects. Some of those players will be gone so you use your next in line so to speak.
Every team has a line-up per each round. Say in the 2nd round we target Rudolph then Paea with #36 pick. If Rudolph is gone then Paea is the pick. Every team sticks to their own format. So you have the right idea dude. Come on April.
I think Stocker would be a good pick in the 3rd for us.
I don’t think Miller could produce in a 4-3 defense. I see him as a 3-4 guy.
At the SAM position, Miller wouldn’t be able to do what he does best…rush the quarterback
did Alabama’ TE Dj Williams declare for the draft?
If he did, he hasnt been getting a lot of attention. A good pass-catching TE with excellent hands. he could be a steal later on.
My Priority-wise:
1.draft DL
2.ILB/OLB
3.Safety/TE
4.TE/Safety
5.DB
6.OL
however, I would gladly welcome a peterson into the broncos..ahah
Let’s draft really good guys that are good and stuff. They should be really good at whining about money. It seems the better players usually are, so that part should be easy. Let’s also draft some players that look good but really aren’t. That way they can learn how to whine from the best. This should sharpen the whining skills of the good whiners while they teach whining to the bad ones. Let’s also draft some players that will get hurt on the “job” so that we’ll all feel sorry for them, even though they are signing on for a professional contact sport. And to be fare, let’s draft some really bad players so that the fans and coaches get to whine as well.
LMAO @ glaxsnax who pretty much captured the feeling of the moment.
Strand, look at what’s in the post by Klis today, something I discussed here with you like back in the middle of the week:
Alas, I could not match the derring do-do of Boston journalist Ron Borges in the mezzanine-level bathroom here Tuesday afternoon at the Roosevelt Hotel.
I was approaching said bathroom when I saw NFL negotiator Bob Batterman and a league official walking in. Deciding to avoid the awkward chitchat, I walked on to find another restroom, not realizing until later that Borges, who covers the NFL for the Boston Herald, was in the commode, poised for his scoop.
From his closed-door stall, Borges heard Batterman say this NFL labor dispute is “in for the long battle.”
Come on Klis just once you are going to have to give credit to our blog for some of your stuff, be a man, I know you can do it.
About the players antitrust lawsuit against the owners to try to lift the lockout (by Klis):
If the owners do win in Minneapolis, the NFL lockout will continue. The owners will have gained considerable leverage, and the players most likely will have no choice but return to the bargaining table.
“And then, we’ll only negotiate with them as a union,” the league source said.
In other words, the players will have to withdraw their antitrust lawsuit and recertify as a union before the owners negotiate. What I didn’t learn from working the hotel lobbies here, but have since learned, is the players also believe they will win in the Minnesota courtroom and the lockout will be lifted.
The players will then have the bargaining leverage, although the owners will immediately appeal to the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis.
If the case gets to St. Louis, the owners are assured of winning their appeal. Know this, sports fans, about the St. Louis courtroom: It’s the most Republican appeals court in the nation, with nine of its 11 judges appointed by Republican presidents.
In short, the players win their case in Minnesota and the lockout is lifted, the owners appeal and win theirs in St. Louis re-instuting the lockout and the players have no choice but to reform a union and go back to the negociating table having lost a crapload of leverage for those. Real smart those players I tell you, the further this crap goes along the more I appreciate the fact that I only care about them playing football, anything else would be a total waste of my life…
And Klis goes on a limb for Miller with our #2 pick (It’s Miller time…Miller High Life…):
I believe Miller, a linebacker from Texas A&M, would be the Broncos’ best choice, primarily because he is the best pass rusher in the draft now that Da’Quan Bowers has been medically flagged. Miller is also strong and agile enough to cover the tight end, a quality the Broncos’ defense painfully lacked last year. Finally, Miller is considered the best linebacker by a wide margin in this draft class.
I live in Texas and I don’t even think he is worth the #2 pick….
Good to see Woody putting a little bit of heat on Elway since John does pay some attention to what Paige says as proven in the past:
Has The Duke of Denver transformed into The Tweet Bird of Excess?
New Twitter activist John Elway (who has reached the 60-tweet plateau) chirped last week: “Many talented prospects in this year’s draft — Which players do you like? Who do you want to see in a Broncos uniform?”
Astonishingly, Elway et al. have shown more than passing (literally) interest in at least seven quarterbacks who will be available in the three-day draft starting a month from Monday.
Just because Elway wore No. 7 doesn’t mean he has to do everything in sevens. The QBs who have been scouted and scrutinized; talked to; watched at their pro days, the NFL combine and the Senior Bowl; and/or invited to Denver include Cam Newton (Auburn), Blaine Gabbert (Missouri), Jake Locker (Washington State), Ryan Mallett (Arkansas), Christian Ponder (Florida State), Colin Kaepernick (Nevada) and Andy Dalton (TCU).
The Broncos have under contract Tim Tebow, Kyle Orton and Brady Quinn.
Enough, already.
The Quarterback Quest, Question & Quandry gets Quriouser and Quriouser, Malice in Wonderland cried.
And he goes on:
The Duke of Denver, the sly Fox and X-Man Brian Xanders own seven selections in seven rounds, with the second overall as a result of the McHiavellian Era.
So, what’s with all the gratuitous attention on Newton, Gabbert and Mallett?
The theories are:
• Harley-Davidson owners hang with other Hogheads, and Elway rides with quarterbacks.
• The Broncos’ three-headed Cerberus is not fond of the current quarterbacks. Orton isn’t mobile, has serious difficulties on third down and when the Broncos are behind by more than a touchdown in the fourth quarter, and is 11-17 as a starter in Denver.
Elway believes Tebow is “very raw” and not ready, or able, to be a pro quarterback; Fox is uncertain about Tebow and opposed to starting young quarterbacks. And The Mighty Quinn and his erratic arm virtually have been forgotten, although Fox said, “Quinn I’m looking forward to seeing.”
• It’s all a ruse. The Broncos are trying to fool other teams into thinking they will choose a quarterback. Therefore, the stupidest will make a deal with the Broncos for that revered choice. Also, after the Broncos announced, meaninglessly, that Orton is the starter “right now” (there is no “right now” with the lockout), they hope teams will jump at a trade for the deposed QB.
• The Broncos hope that Locker, Ponder, Kaepernick or even Mallett slip, and one can be drafted in the second round, where they have two picks, because they are intending to dump Orton and Quinn.
• The Broncos’ confused brain trust will take Newton or Gabbert.
Then with the realities:
• Smart people in Denver will not accept the Broncos drafting still another quarterback in the first round or starting Orton again.
• Fox was disgusted that a year ago his former team’s GM chose quarterbacks with two of its first three picks — and selected a third QB later. Jimmy Clausen busted, project Armanti Edwards was converted to wide receiver and Tony Pike played in one game. The Panthers are expected to select another quarterback No. 1 on April 28.
• E-mailer Billy Sweeney reveals that Tebow had better overall statistics than three fellow rookies — Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy and Clausen — in their first three starts. Tebow, 850 yards (passing and rushing), seven touchdowns, three interceptions, 82.7 QB rating, 1-2 record; Bradford, 657, 4, 5, 72.6, 1-2; McCoy, 566, 2, 2, 83.4, 2-1; Clausen, 414, 1, 2, 59.3, 0-3. Elway and Fox want to see Tebow improve in the pocket and grasp the offense, and he will not be traded.
• The Broncos will draft a dominant defensive tackle — Marcell Dareus is the leader in the clubhouse — or trade the pick if they can get Patrick Peterson or Von Miller several picks later. Perhaps they can persuade the 49ers, at No. 7 (yes), the Titans (8), Washington’s Mike Shana- han (10th; he grabbed Jay Cutler at 11) or the Vikings (12) to trade up with additional draft choices for the Broncos’ pick.
He kept up my attention until the trading down thing, as talked about here earlier it is a nearly impossible concept to think that anyone will trade up to #2 in this cba-less world and be willing to fork out about 44 millions for that #2. Good luck finding such trading partner!
But, yeah, Dareus all the way, way to go Woody!
About trhe trading down thing, this is what I was referring to earlier:
To trade back on draft day, April 28, the Broncos need a near-miraculous resolution to the current labor agreement. As it stands now, the No. 2 pick would likely get $44 million in contract guarantees (10 percent more than the $40 million Detroit handed Ndamukong Suh last year).
Anyone else here dying for Free Agency?
No wonder, there will about 500 players scheduled to become unrestricted free agents when the lockout ends.
@baylin. I agree , Pard, I don’t see a trade without something remarkable happening. Having said that, I don’t see a new cba without a rookie cap being in place. I’m not sure the owners aren’t prepared to trade quite a bit to get that given the early picks in the last 5 or 6 drafts and what stellar performances they have had. If we see a trade down in the early part of the round, that would say to me they intend to get the cap one way or the other! I think the NFLPA may likely get burned in court and be forced back to the table in a weaker position and have to give the owners’ the cap just to get things moving. That puts a trade down back on the table. At that point, the whole 1st Round mock goes right out the window!
Haha, Woody and klis both got drunk last night and read these blogs to get ideas….
I guess they only read us when they are board and drunk…haha
I wish they would just invite some of us over for beers and discussion so they could get the stuff straight from the source…lol. I know I would have more fun that way….
ILMSDB!!!!
Half of the NFL players could change teams in one day if all the teams are lining trades up in advance and just waiting for the ink on the paper to pull the trigger….
It will be on heck of a few days after the new CBA is agreed upon. Unless it doesn’t happen until after the regular season games should have started, then it will be like some sort of time warp back to last year with probably most teams playing out the season with the players they have…idk?
OC, that time warp would bode well for those of us who are TebOrton supporters. At least for 2011??? Lol
henryac, I hear you but the problem is, what if they go back to work this season without a union like in 2010 meaning the #2 pick WILL be worth 44 mil? Would anyone be willing to take that gamble? I wouldn’t, I don’t see a guy up in the top two worthy of that money this year if I had a choice, of course when it’s your pick, you don’t have a choice. I think teams will make us keep it.
Crazy stuff Bay. And like I said you only see things like that in a movie. Scoop from a commode. lol
meant without a cba.
44 million, thats alot of mula.
Broncos20, the answer to your quetion is yes he did. TE DJ Williams is in the 2011 draft.
I`m all for a rookie salary cap.
I`m in for dumping Orton and Quinn and raft another QB in a later round. Say maybe a backup QB for Tim Tebow such as Colin Kaepernick. And I did say backup QB. Tebows the future of our team.
One of the quarterback hungry teams ( Miami, Minnesota, Washington, Seattle, San Francisco, Arizona, Cincinatti, Buffalo, Tenessee, and Carolina ) Won’t get their QB of the future. There’s about 4 or 5 QB’s that can be given that label ( Gabbert, Newton, Locker, Mallet, Ponder, and maybe Dalton ). Let’s assume Carolina gets Gabbert, Buffalo gets Newton, Washington gets Locker, Minnesota gets Mallet, and Seattle gets Ponder. That leaves 5 teams without a solid quarterback. Kolb will probably be traded to a team like San Fran. That now leaves 4 teams. Tennessee bites on Mcnabb, that leaves 3 teams. We have Orton, one of those teams panics and decides to give us a 2nd for Orton. Point of all this garbage is, there’s a lot of teams out there that need quarterbacks, so it shouldn’t be that hard to find a trade partner for Orton
With this draft in 2011 the way rules are without a new CBA teams can only trade picks for picks and no players at all can be traded. Not until a new CBA is agreed upon. But after a CBA is reached we can trade Orton for a 2012 pick. A new CBA isn`t going to be reached until after this draft.
haha, yeah sndvl, unless we warp back to the future and have a Black Sunday 2011……uuugh…lol
ahaha..maybe us and our dads can meet up this year for the game and have a Black Sunday renunion…lol
Bronc On Bro!!!!
ILMSDB!!!!!
Well stated strand. Orton being traded to help us with this current draft is a pipe dream at this point. With odds pretty much being the equivalent of winning the lottery or being striked by lightning, haha.
I don’t think Tebow will go anywhere (response to earlier posts). If Pat Bowlen has anything to do with it.
He’s too good for business, especially for a franchise that has gone supernova and is nursing a new championship calibre team.
Let me organize my thoughts:
1. Tebow is already iconic. Hell, he was iconic before putting on the Orange and Blue.
2. Where would he go in this “league”?. He can’t go to any of the upper tier teams in the NFL because all those teams already have established QB’s. The Patriots, Colts, Steelers, Packers, etc. Even if you look at the second or third rung of teams in the NFL there’s the likes of San Diego, New York (both the Jets and the Giants), Dallas, Philly, etc.
3. Tebow has approached the media with the expressed will to just play, regadless of the NFLPA, the CBA, 18 vs. 16 games, etc. This is, to me, the most attractive attribute, were I an Owner.
4. Tebow is young, durable and tough. Even John Elway has made allusions to the questionability of his own success in Denver if Tebow were around “back then”. I suppose Tebow has the downfall of taking on D-line’s men and Line-backers with the attitude of a full back. Not wise when these players have the objective of exterminating the QB to win. But, a few trips to the Neurologist and/or whirlpool should cure that.
5. Pat has been seeking out another Elway for more than a decade. Now the Gravitational Force of Elway is at the very center of the Nebula created by the Josh McDaniels implosion. The only ‘sway’ on the rules of Pro Football Cosmology would be Elway knowing something that no one else does, or even less likely, Elway fearing an eclipse by the new born star.
As for the drafting of Players: The NFL is comprised mainly of us, the fans.
Draft players according to needs for the team (any team mind you) and conduct a season without the politics. Any of the banter from Unions, present or to come, can be both heard and listened to. But the NFLPA or others would have to understand that the hurdles of fairness were already jumped by earlier efforts.
The Owners could have long since drove football into ground, but they haven’t. There is a revenue stream that was once taken advantage of but it is not anymore. Owners partake in football as a business agenda because they understand the fans, and that is there inalienable right, but now it is ‘some’ players that see themselves as above the sport and the fans.
So, who needs them? Dismantle the NFLPA, allow players to play if they want, draft players that want to play, and play for your team. Afterall, that’s all that any of these millionares will have in the end…a legacy.
Baylin, you could very well be right but I am wondering if maybe one of the 4-9 position teams who think Newton is the next big thing might not get antsy and take the chance. A couple of those teams have been acting like not getting a “franchise” QB this draft will be a disaster for them. My question to them would be, How many :franchise” QBs come out of any particular draft? If more than one came out every year, nobody would need a QB! One, sometimes two, that’s about it. Newton is not going to turn into a franchise QB, I don’t think. With him, it’s too much about him and not enough about the team. Great athlete, tremendous size, has all the talent he needs to succeed, but then again, so did Ryan Leaf, Tony Banks, Akili Smith, Jemarcus Russell and Vince Young! Talent doesn’t do it alone, it takes a lot of desire to study and work to make it and I don’t think he wants to do that. He wants to be an “Icon”, not a QB! But, lets hope the other teams don’t notice until after they trade Denver a couple of draft choices to be sure they get him!
Forgot to mention…The players wouldn’t even have the money if it weren’t for the Owners and the League and, of course, the FANS.
henryac, thanks for your excellent analogy of Newton, which saves me having to make further points about why it will be very difficult for us to find anybody to trade down with, specially if Caroliona picks Gabbert with the #1 as seems to be the ongoing consensus now.
One thing you did not mention about Newton, he may have a lot of physical talents but he has major accuracy problems in his throws and that presents major problems with the quality of secondaries in this league verses in college where you can get away with it. Come to think of it that’s probably exactly what Elway is worried about Tebow not being ready yet.
And glaxsnax, it’s funny that you make a better point about why we will probably go with Tebow BEFORE any of your five points, when you say “He is too good for business”. That right there is the #1 reason Mr. Bowlen will require that Tebow is given a fair shot.
And, oh yeah, the players sux.
Football, that’s all we want from you guys, football, what you spent all your life learning, not this fantasy feeling that somehow you can get in the game of business and actually think you know what you’re doing and can get your way against people who were bread to do nothing but compete in business!
Watching you guys doing that is so painful, I’d rather get a root canal any day, geee.
Ya Bay, I don`t see a CBA getting done before the draft. IT IS WHAT IT IS! HaHa!! So trade Orton for a 2012 pick. We just have to wait another year is all. No biggy. It`s a strang year. We just have to go with it.
I think I’m going to start a new industry. Fan compensation Insurance.
I’ve already seen a report on MSN.com that shows an increase in Domestic Violence due to NFL game outcomes.
It shouldn’t be very difficult for actuaries to tally up a seasonal premium that would offset the expenses of dealing with frigid housewives.
The “criminal” justice system would most likely endorse this comodety.
So, FANS (Fans Against Narcicistic Sportsmen) would collect seasonal premiums to insure the fans in the event of our current dilemna. The deductable for any policy holder would be the cost of the most expensive NFL jersey on the market and the dividends for the claim would be comprised of all the contracts from the ‘players’ (that don’t really wan’t to play) and all the whiners. Depending on the nature of the claim the dividends could include the TV rights that the owners may be counting on.
Then, all dividends would be disburst amongst the policy holders that are current with their premiums and have $50 bucks.
This should make the players think twice, if not thrice but it may drive up the cost of ‘official’ NFL Jersey’s. So, I’m going to open a sweatshop to manufacture appearal.
One thing I would liked explained to me is why can teams still sell jerseys of current players without a cba in place? I mean the owners don’t own the player’s rights anymore, or are the jerseys just the property of each team with complete disregard to the players whose names are on it?
BAYLIN;
Thanks for seeing my points (and adding to them) on Tebow.
We also have to consider that Tebow is just about the only shining remnant of Josh McDaniels’ time as Head Coach/GM. I think that Pat Bowlen’s last wish would be for Tebow to go as Josh did to SL.
But, far be it from me to accuse Pat Bowlen of being petty.
Correct, Tebow is Mr. Bowlen’s last hope for something good out of the McD fiasco, and he desperately needs something, anything, to make that pain go away. That whole McD era was as embarrassing as anyhting Mr. Bowlen has ever experienced, I’m sure, on a professional level anyway.
I think that any jersey that is “official” goes to the league. But there are copyright issues for “un-official” that drives down prices at Wal-Mart. That was an excellent question.
Either way, when the fans get sick of creating false idols there seems to be a loop hole in the ablity to wear a number on a shirt. I don’t think anyone has copyrighted digits…yet. Y2K doesn’t count.
I don’t think there is a copyright on colors either.