Earlier this morning, Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen called former wide receiver Rod Smith and notified him that he had been voted into the Broncos Ring of Fame in his first year of eligibility.
That call started a chain of phone calls and text messages that would flood the franchise’s all-time leading receiver’s phone.
“It’s a huge deal,” Smith said of the honor on a conference call. “I got a chance to speak to Mr. Bowlen today and just really thanked him for allowing me and my family to be a part of his family. He really allowed me a chance to work for the best organization in all of pro sports.”
Smith thanked every player he ever played with, along with a slew of former coaches who he credited with helping him achieve success in the NFL.
Throughout the day, he estimated that he received 50 text messages from those people congratulating him
on the news.
“A lot of people are excited, and I’m excited as well,” he said. “It’s a testament to where you came from. There are a lot of people that shared that honor with me, not only the people I grew up with from my immediate family, but every guy I ever played high school football with or through college and on and on and on. It’s a huge deal.”
It an honor that Smith says means even more to him because of all the other people that share in it as well.
“I’ve always dreamed of that and wanted to have my name next to those guys up there who meant a lot to not just that organization but to the community as well,” Smith said. “It’s one of those things where the whole entire community gets a reward. They just pick one person to accept it. I’m just glad that I’m the person that they picked.”
One coach that Smith singled out as a major influencer on his career was his wide receiver coach, Mike Heimerdinger.
“Oh man, (he was) everything,” Smith said. “If it wasn’t for Mike Heimerdinger, I can promise you we wouldn’t be on the phone right now because he saw more in me than I saw in me at the time. Sometimes that is all you need, for somebody to believe in you more than you even believe in yourself. What I did was borrow his belief in me. He told me I had the talent and had the skills. He spoke those things every single day and then I went out there and I had to go to work for them. … Mike, I’m telling you – to the day I die, he always is going to be a huge part of my family.”
Smith, who rose from an undrafted free agent to the all-time leading receiver in Broncos history, was known for his unyielding work ethic. He said that because of the way his career began as an undrafted free agent out of a Division-II school, he always had the mindset that he’d have to outwork other players for his spot on the roster.
“I embraced the path and I didn’t worry about the path,” Smith said. “I knew where I wanted to go and I knew I was going to outwork everyone else. When they were gone, I was still working. When they were asleep, I was still working. I tell people that all the time, work works. I wanted to be the best teammate I could be. I knew if I was better, it made our team better.
“You have to clock in and sometimes you don’t clock out,” he continued. “In the NFL, I never clocked out. Once I got in, I didn’t clock out. The day I clocked out was the day I retired. … You want to wake up when you want to wake up. Don’t let them wake you up. That was just kind of my approach.”
Below are a few other quick hits from Rod Smith’s conference call:
On his first career catch, which went for a game-winning touchdown
“Actually, I was on special teams and I (stunk) that day. I get a chance at the end of the game to make a play – it was my first ever catch and my thing was just giving myself a chance. James Washington, still to this day, I talk to James Washington – it’s been a couple years now – but he said, ‘Man, if it wasn’t for me, your career would have sucked.’ I said, ‘What do you mean?’ He said, ‘Well, I knocked out all the other receivers and you were the only one left.’ That’s actually true – he had knocked out two of our receivers and we only had four, so they had no choice but to play me.”
On whether he has a favorite moment of his career
“Not really – there are so many of them, you really can’t pinpoint any one thing. I have moments of other guys. I still remember (former fullback) Kyle (Johnson) – I still remember him catching his first pass. I remember him having his first touchdown and he spiked the ball and I went and got it from him. Stuff like that I remember that most people don’t remember. It didn’t even dawn on him – I said, ‘Kyle, I remember my first catch. My first catch was a game-winning touchdown. This is your first touchdown, you want to keep this ball. No matter how long you play in this business, nobody can ever take it away. I remember a lot of stuff like that – little intangible stuff that doesn’t probably make Sportscenter-type deals, but just seeing some of my teammates and persevere through when they were hurt – I remember Gary Zimmerman playing with a separated shoulder gave up no sacks. I said, ‘Man, I have to step my game out. This dude is out there with a separated shoulder going against some of the best D-linemen in the league and shutting them down. When you get hearts of champions like that around you all the time, I remember all those moments because they’ve made me say, ‘Man, you have to get better.’ So, I kept working because of the atmosphere of the environment I was around.
On whether he thinks he should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame
“Well what are they basing the Hall of Fame on? What do you base it on? Do you base it on wins? I have some of those. Do you base in on catches? I have a lot of those. Touchdowns, and the unsung stuff to me is the blocking that Eddie (McCaffrey) and myself and the other guys I played with – you look at the running backs in my era and how many yards they rushed for, I take that personally because it was about the team to me. Honestly, there are a ton of guys that my numbers are way better than theirs, so why not be considered for it? When I went into the business I wasn’t looking at that, but once I got in the business and I saw that those things were possible – I went to John Elway’s induction into the hall of fame and I said it’s possible. It’s hard to see it until you see somebody else kind of go through it. When I saw John get inducted, I was very emotional that day, because I knew a piece of me went. But, I said, ‘Why not be right beside him? Why not have a bust right beside him?’ One thing I can say is this: I don’t get to vote, and if I did, I would vote for me because I gave them everything I had. That’s all I can do. I tried to be the best teammate I could. I tried to represent the game, the NFL shield as best as I could. Those who vote will hopefully see it the same way. That’s all I can do.”
On how he was able to be so successful
“I was hungry. I stayed hungry – I’m still hungry now. There is something about the human spirit – you just have to be hungry 24/7. … And thanks to Mike Shanahan, Mike Heimerdinger, Gary Kubiak, Brian Pariani, Bobby Turner, ‘Rico’ (Rick Dennison) and all the offensive coaches and the defensive coaches – Coach (Bob) Slowik and a lot of the coaches, Ed Donatell, just all the coaches I ever played with – they all had a hand in me being a better person and made me a better athlete on the field for the Denver Broncos.”
On topping the Shannon Sharpe Ring of Fame entrance when he skydived into the stadium
“I’m not going to do that stupid stuff, I’m going to tell you that right now. I don’t know. I don’t know what the options are. I can tell you right now that jumping out of something more than three or four feet in the air isn’t it. I’m not coming in like that, so don’t anybody put that together, don’t entertain it, it’s not going to happen.”
-Stuart Zaas
Von_Dumervil:
Ramble on my Bronco Bro!! I am all in with you.
Great predictions and Broncos Country is behind you all the way!!
Postive post! I love it.
FTR
LBF:
I am proud of my sons do not get me wrong here. But it cost me all my Vacation time for 8 year’s. The cost of the many off season Camps and trips to Los Vegas for USA regionals. Preparing them for the High School season was a full time job. They had the drive I had to put out the money!! These were Western Regionals held every year during the off season in LV. And we did not stay on the strip .We had 35$ rooms in north Vegas. But thanks for the compliment. Wrestlers are a different breed. No off season!
FTR
I didn’t realize OTAs start tomorrow. Can’t wait for the coverage!!!
And yeah RBF1, I make it to a game every year. I haven’t decided which game I’ll be attending yet. I’m seriously contemplating bringing my 2 year old to his first game. I think he’d love it. But, I just don’t know yet.
Great article in the DP today. Bottom line: Fox is 39-3 all time when his team scores 25+ points in a game, and Peyton Manning has averaged 26.7 points per game throughout his career. Sprinkle a little Jack Del Rio in there, and if you still aren’t excited, well, I don’t know what to tell ya….
“I know John Fox’s record when they’ve scored over 25 points a game,” said Gruden, a former Super Bowl-winning coach who now is the color commentator for ESPN’s “Monday Night Football” telecasts. “It’s pretty impressive. And I know Peyton Manning for 14 years has been slicing people up for about 25 points a game. So that combination could be lethal for the Broncos.”
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20669981/peyton-manning-denver-broncos-ready-start-meshing-field
I’m so happy how you haven’t seen or heard of a single Peyton Manning story, b/c no one in the press can find him. He is either home sleeping, at the Dove Valley facilities training, or spending time building chemistry with his teammates.
Meanwhile, in a land far, far, away….
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/20/tim-tebow-rock-of-ages-photo/
The Neck is working to get the team ready and learning the playbook as well as working to get back to form. While Tim Tebow is well being Tim…..
He is so worried about his own image he refuses to have a phoros taken with any of the SI swimsuit models because hes afraid it would ruin it.
*Photos.
Yep. I have no problem with him going out on the town, promoting himself, or even choosing to go the New York over Jacksonville. What bothers me is that his fan base is so apologetic to it all, and makes up every excuse in the world to defend him, bordering being delusional. The reality is, Tim Tebow has branded himself brilliantly, and is a well oiled marketing machine, making a TON of money along the way. I have no problem with any of that, as I commend his business sense, I just wish his blind followers would recognize it for what it is as well.
I’m pretty excited to see photos from practice today!
Agreed OT. It also bothers me that he is so worried about his image. The SI swimsuit models were in normal clothes and he still refused….
I cant wait to see photos or footage of OTAs today. Anyone know what time they actually start?
Good Morning all. You would think there was full moon this weekend with how crazy the blog was. I, for one, will be glad when the season starts so all of this worthless speculation will subside.
Alaskan, I don’t have a problem with how anyone personally feels about Tebow, but if you want to diss him, it might be wise to have your facts straight. It’s amazing how so many people believe media crap and turn it into their own opinions when there is no factual basis for it. Case in point:
http://www.businessinsider.com/tim-tebow-si-model-pictures-2012-2?utm_source=alerts&nr_email_referer=1
Hope you guys have a great day!
Tide I didnt diss him. I said it bothers me that he is so worried about his image. It bothers me because he is trying to give the image of being perfect IMO and I dont agree with it. No one is perfect.
I have my facts thank you as I had seen an article (Posted below) talking about it first thank you very much.
Tim Tebow has a thing about taking pictures. A few weeks ago we learned that he didn’t want to take pictures with Sports Illustrated swimsuit models (even when they were fully dressed) because it might be bad for his image.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8293b381/article/tim-tebow-shy-about-backstage-broadway-pic
Like I said, Alaskan, you can’t believe everything you read. There is a photo for proof that he did pose with the SI models, take it or leave it. That’s was a fabricated article, but I’m sure a lot of people bought it hook, line and sinker because some folks just want to believe the worst about him. And yes, you were dissing him by being critical of him for being concerned about his image because you said “he’s so worried about it, and it bothers you.” Why should it bother you? I seriously doubt he worries too much about what the media says, because, as he’s said countless times, he can’t control it. People are going to write whatever they want and believe whatever they choose, so it’s pointless. He just does his thing and lives his life the way he believes he should. Problem is, too many people think he should to live his life their way. Meh.
That’s great sndvl…. W used take ours when they were little but usually just one of them. My daughter did really well, but my son always wanted to take off on me. Lots of great games to pick from schedule this year. Keep me posted, maybe we can get together before game.
I said why it bothers me. He is worried about his image so much that IMO he is trying to come across as perfect. Which bothers me because no one is perfect. Sorry but your mistaken if you think that is a “diss”. A diss would be me saying hes a moron for treying to control his image or something to that effect not saying him trying to control it bothers me.
Also you can say all you want about one picture. Ok so he has had one. Yet he is asking someone to take down a photo because of his image and he has refused to take photos with SI models because hes worried about his image. Just not those two for some reason unknown.
Sorry making a correction to what I said. There are only two public photos of Tebow with SI models. Both photos have Kate Upton on them.
It still doesnt change the fact that he has refused SI models and asking someone to take down another photo because its bad for his image.
Say what you want Tide but Tebow is trying to make himself look perfect IMO. Which bothers me. But apparently thats a diss in your eyes.
He has refused to tale photos with SI models? Come on, Alaskan, he posed with them, and I posted the photo! Can you not see Tebow with in the middle of them?? I told you that was reported incorrectly, yet you still choose to believe it. Talk about hard headed!
Whatever, Alaskan, Not going to waste the morning arguing with you. However, I’ll leave you with this: Tebow is a very strong Christian, and as such, he takes to heart what the Bible says in Matthew 5:48, from Christ’s Sermon on the Mount, “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”
People who aren’t Christian, or don’t study the Bible, don’t understand why he strives to be perfect. My point is, it’s his life. If he strives to be “perfect,” why should anyone care? And you don’t know whether Tebow asked for that “Rock of Ages” photo to be taken down, or if it was someone in his camp. And why does it matter?
I’m off for the day. Enjoy.
What he refuse to do was take photos of them in swimsuits. You need to get your facts straight. At any rate, it doesn’t matter, because you’re like arguing with a fence post. It’s got to be your way, or no way. Boy, you’ve got a lot to learn before your babies get here.
I’m outta here for good this time.
Tide two photos. He has refused to take them with them in regular clothes also. Unless you didnt read that article I posted. Also your photo was in February. How do you know it was reported incorrectly? Just because he has taken two photos automatically means he has never refused them before or after? You have no proof that he hasnt refused them. The photo you posted and the other one im talking about is no proof that he has NEVER refused them before.
I know what the bible says. Especially the book of Matthew as I had to study it one time when I was with my foster parents. He is giving a false image of being “perfect” which bothers me. The fact it is a false image shows that he isnt perfect yet he still strives to be.
Also dont ever insult me like that. You have no idea how I am off my computer. You are the one that is not seeing that he has refused to take photos with them in regular clothes. Which was in the article I posted.
Tide I know im hard headed yet you are to. You think because there is two photos out there doesnt mean he has never refused before or since them. You also fail to see that there is a photo being asked to be taken down because it may ruin his image.
I saw your picutre. But just cause its there (Back in February it happened) does not mean that he hasnt. Its like you dont get that. And you sit there and say something is false that you have no proof of being false. There are more than TWO SI models. Like I have just been saying you have no way of knowing he hasnt refused them.
I see it’s high Tide! How are ya? I hope all is well. I knew I’d get some comments going on the Tebow issue. For me, like I said, I have no problem with anything Tebow does, but I am gonna call it like it is, and I do think that he choose to come to New York for the attention and marketing/endorsement potential. I would do the same if I were him, as I live in NY, so I don’t blame him one bit.
Part of me does feel bad for him for how the NY media will no doubt treat him throughout the season, as we haven’t seen anything yet, but then again, it’s the nature of the beast and comes with the territory. But they say, “if you can make here (NY), you can make it anywhere”, so maybe he will take over the world.
Only thing I have an issue of Tebow doing is the image of false perfection he is showing.
He went to NY because its a bigger stage that is known. He has said that. Very smart for him on a business side that many people and players do.
Buccs Pats and Chiefs all worked out TE Dallas Clark over the past week and a half.
Buccs are trying to make a deal for Clark and trying to trade TE Winslow.
Chiefs and Pats have expressed interest in signing him and have negotiations going but not as strong as the Buccs.
According the Adam Schefter via Twitter
I do agree that Tebow probably has 20 people pulling him in different directions, as far as marketing, image, etc.
I agree with that also. Its just going towards false perfection IMO.
I like Tebow. A lot. And I hope that his camp is more to blame for this image than himself.
I also hate how the media twists everything around these days, making something out of nothing. Like I said, we have not seen anything yet on how the NY media machine will exploit this story.. They will be everywhere, in every corner, just looking for any little thing to write about. Once the season starts, it will get out of control IMO. I hope for Tebow’s sake, that he can carry on with blinders on, and not get bent out of shape over their actions, b/c this is only the tip of a massive iceberg…
NFL Spring Meeting kicks off in Atlanta today … 2 votes expected tabled from March: Loosening IR rules and backing up trade deadline.
OT the perfect example for NY media is Sanchez. His first couple seasons every little thing they jumped on him for. Both on the field and off. It has already started with Tebow. They did it when he was looking at a place in Sanchez neighborhood and when he ended up getting a place in Elis. Its always been that way with Tebow though that they jump on everything however in NY its only going to get worse.
Now mandatory in the NFL a Player must wear knee thigh and hip pads.
Many players wouldnt wear them as they could move a bit faster without them. Glad to see them finally make it mandatory.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8293bd39/article/nfl-owners-to-consider-making-leg-pads-mandatory
Here is the article about it.
Yep. The NY media is unrelenting, and borderline unethical IMO. They will take it to new heights (lows) with the Tebow story, given the massive interest, which transcends sports and the controversial subject matter, in a liberal city.. It’s the perfect storm.
Okay, Alaskan. For the last time……
I read your article, but I had already seen it, thank you very much. I AM aware of the photo this weekend, from “Rock of Ages,” which was asked to be taken off one of the actress’s Twitter accounts, and referenced it way up thread. Obviously your reading comprehension is lacking, or something. YOU obviously didn’t read YOUR article very closely, because if you click on the sentence that is highlighted that says “might be bad for his image,” then you know that THAT is EXACTLY the false reporting to which I was referring. The picture I posted is where it’s disputed, and to further add proof, here is an article debunking it, but there are more.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-05-01/sports/31509750_1_tim-tebow-dan-patrick-show-kate-upton
Again, you are like arguing with a fence post. Tebow shouldn’t try to be perfect because to you it’s “false perfection?” FALSE PERFECTION?? Give me a break, Alaskan. You should only hope that you could be 1/1000th of the man Tim Tebow is.
Furthermore, you can call Tebow’s image “false” all you want, and you can believe whatever you want, but it doesn’t make you right. You’re an opinionated fool, is what you are, and chew on THAT insult, and don’t EVER tell me what I write on this blog! It isn’t your blog, and you are not the administrator. Besides that, you’ve slung more than a few “insults” in nearly every direction to nearly every poster on here, so just back your little know it all butt up. I told you why Tebow strives for perfection, and he knows better than anyone that he isn’t, and has said so on MANY occasions. It’s the media who’s trying to make him “this thing or that thing,” and the sheeple who can’t think for themselves swallow every printed word. Quite sad, really. If you don’t agree with it, who really gives a damn?
I can’t help think I started this whole thing….
Tide get your eyes checked. ONE picture doesnt prove a damn thing. It doesnt prove that he hasnt refused. There are more than two SI models out there. If he hasnt refused where are the pictures of them? There is no way to debunk that article being true unless you are Tim. Has he ever said he has refused or not? No he hasnt. So there is no proof as one photo doesnt prove a damn thing.
I dont care if im 1/100th of the man Tebow is. He hasnt gone through half the crap I have during my life. Would he be anywhere as big if he was? I dont know. No one can know because he hasnt.
You think that ONE picture means he has NEVER refused them before which it does not. Can you prove that he has NEVER refused before? No you cant as you are not him. No one can for that matter.
I dont care if you insult me but you brought my future kids into it. Which is something I have never done. I have never insulted anyones family on here yet you have.
You are an arrogant old women who think your age makes you “right” about things you have no clue if you are or not. You cant prove he has never refused. Sorry you’re the one who obviously cant comprehend what your reading as I have said that. Another thing that shows you cant is that you said I “dissed” him when I was stating my opinion about the image he is giving off. Also I dont act like a know it all and dont have to be right as I have said many times before on here that I was wrong about something or another. You are telling me now that my opinion is wrong. I said IMO he is giving off a false perfect image. I stated my reasons why I think that and you say I am wrong for it.
It would be better for him to actually try to be perfect then to do this stuff and try to cover it up. The fact he is covering up these photos or trying to is what is giving the false perfection image.
Tide maybe you should think before you speak. As it is very obvious what I originally said was no diss as it was my opinion and you jumped on me for it. You said once that everyone has their own opinion so telling them its wrong is pointless. Thats not verbatim but the point is the same. Yet here you are telling me mine is wrong.
OT no you didnt. The old women who cant read Tide started it by saying I dissed Tebow when I stated by opinion of the situation.
To further prove my point, Alaskan, Tebow DID NOT get a place close to Eli in Hoboken. If you were better researched on your comments, you would know that Tebow himself said he HAD NOT moved to Hoboken, and had, in fact, never even been there. He hasn’t even found a place to live yet, and it staying in a hotel.
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2012/05/tim_tebow_denies_living_in_hob.html
I told you, Alaskan, he refused to take pictures of them in their swimsuits. They wanted to do a shoot with him, and he chose not to. He never refused to be photographed with them AT ALL, as you can see there is a photo with them all fully clothed. Why would he want to be photographed laying around with bikini clad models? What purpose would that serve his ministry or his career? Get real.
Tide I find it funny that you said I can only hope to be 1/100th of the man Tebow is.
I have no intentions of being anything like him. Im going to be my own person. No one should try to live up to be like anyone else. We are all different and shouldnt try to be anyone other than who they are. I think there is actually a bible verse about that but im not sure.
Also if your so godly then theres a verse that only god can judge me. You can have your opinions of me but I dont give a damn what you think of me. You dont know me at all. I dont care what anyone thinks of me as only God is the one who can judge me.
I may not be the smartest strongest hottest or toughest person. But I dont try to be. I am who I am. I have gone through what I have gone though. I will face what I have to face. I live my life how I want to live it. Not how Tebow does. So that was one of the stupidest things i have ever seen you say towards me as it was rather pointless.
Oh sorry. Im not perfect and can make mistakes Tide. Yet where he lives doesnt prove a damn thin that he hasnt ever refused them before. Dont really see how that proves your point lol.
Also as you still fail to read and comprehend. ONE photo does NOT prove that he has never refused them before in his life. I know he has refused them in bikinis. For who he is I dont blame him. (Not a choice I would make) Yet you have no proof that he has NEVER refused them fully clothes as like ive been saying ONE photo does not prove that. Yet you seem to think it does.
If its like arguing with a fence post when arguing with me why do you keep doing it? You are arguing that my opinion is wrong and arguing something that one photo does not prove. So you may as well just stop since im like a fence post lol.
Anyways on different note. On a article I think OT posted earlier I was reading some of the comments and found some of them rather funny.
Someone posted how the Chiefs offered Joe Montana to unrtire #16 for him yet he chose #19. So the person then went on to post how Denver should never have un-retired #18 for Manning and forced him to wear a different number. That the FO and Manning should never have asked Frank Tripucka if he could. Someone else posted if Denver can un-retire it for Manning why didnt they do that for Orton who wore #18 in college. On another note Denver nor Manning asked Tripucka about it that we know of but he gave the ok first.
I found it funny and thought Id share.
Oh OT since we were talking about the shirt thing yesterday I saw earlier that the NFL is not asking them to stop making and selling the shirts as the style of it is that of the Jets symbol.
Yeah, well, I don’t know you, nor do I care to, but it’s obvious from what you post on this blog that honor and integrity are not as high on your priority list as they are Tebow’s.
Your knowledge of the Bible is lacking, and that’s apparently your choice, but don’t try to put things in there that aren’t, just to fit your argument. Furthermore, I never said I was Godly, nor claimed to be, but you’re the master as putting words in the mouths of others to try to make your points and validate your weak arguments. And you’re really excellent at posting the same thing over and over and over and over again, trying to hammer your point in, as though those of us who can actually read and comprehend the written word can’t grasp it the first time and will change our minds. Doesn’t work, and you’re just wasting keystrokes. Plus, it causes me, and I’m sure a few others, to skip over your posts, since they’re the same thing over and over again, whenever you get in an argument with anyone on here. It’s true.
Look, I’m pretty much done on here. A blog is a place for sharing opinions and discussing the Broncos, but it’s turned into a slugfest around here if someone’s opinion (OPINION) doesn’t jive with someone else. I don’t care what you’re opinion is, as long as it’s based on fact, but here lately, it’s all about speculation and conjecture, and disputes because we all don’t see eye to eye. It isn’t worth posting on here anymore, or even reading the back and forth, much less participating in it.
Have at it, Alaskan. Your next argument is just around the corner, I’m sure.
Andrew Brandt @adbrandt
Trade conversation re Winslow – Bucs: “He’s a quality player, he’ll help you.” Other team: “Then why are you getting rid of him?”
LOL thats how it is with every traded player I would think lol.
Also TO said he wants to go to the Bay. Either SF or Oak. On ESPN first take right now they are talking whether TO and Moss could coexist. I gotta say it would be very interesting to see them both try.
Yep. I saw that too. The design is very close to the Jets logo IMO, and they may have a case there, but I thought Tebow’s claim was a stretch, eventhough we all knew what they were doing. The NFL should try to nip this in the bud, b/c with the publicity this company is getting, no doubt others will attempt similar tactics. I don’t condone it one bit, but I understand their motives, as that level of publicity is priceless, especially for a smaller company. It’s a sick world, no doubt, and New York is the epicenter of it all. Lol
I said I wasnt sure about the one. Yet I know there is a verse that says something along the lines of that others cannot judge you but only your father in heaven can judge you on judgment day.
Again you are comparing me to Tebow. A comparison that is pointless. As I dont want to be like him. Something you failed to comprehend.
I didnt put any words in your mouth. I said you are godly with your posts of the bible and knowing the exact vs. That isnt putting words in your mouth at all. Putting words in your mouth is saying you said something you didnt. lol.
I love how you say, that you dont care what opinions are as long as they are based on fact. Opinions are opinions period. Some cannot be backed by fact. As with Christians and Atheists both have different oppions that cant be really backed up with fact. Same with Aliens and people who believe they are out there and some who dont.
I know I repeat what I say. I do it when people dont comprehend certain things I am saying. Im not trying to “hammer my point it” trying to get it comprehended.
Also this argument was caused by you jumping on me for me stating my opinion that you say is wrong and was a diss on Tebow.
Im sure I will argue with someone else today. Its fun for me and keeps the blog interesting.
Goodbye Tide. You wont be missed by me you old senile women.
OT, you know I don’t have a beef with you, but it wasn’t JUST the shirt itself, that Tebow’s attorneys were going after. It was the description on the website that mentioned Tebow’s name several times, even though it had the disclaimer that the shirt wasn’t endorsed by him. If you haven’t seen it, and they may have reworded it by now, but here’s the link:
http://www.cubbytees.com/ShirtPages/TebowJesus.html
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OT, this is what it says:
We’re not generally fond of broadcasting our faith, or mixing sports and religion…but we’re also not the kind of guys who would ever tell others how to worship/root/live, and if Tebowmania is any indication, there are millions who like to mix their Sunday pleasure and piety.
This Fall, Tim Tebow will be in the uniform of the New York Jets, potentially taking the Tebowing phenomenon to a whole new level.
Now that the NFL’s most popular player has moved his pulpit from Denver to New York City, he’ll no longer simply be delivering sermons from the mountains — he’ll have the attention of the world’s premiere media market. Jets for Jesus! Whether his message — or his playing skills — will thrive under the bright lights of Gotham remains to be seen…but we know that a legion of believers will have faith in him. He’s not just looking to cure lepers, but heal Gang Green!
This fun design is not officially endorsed by New York’s backup quarterback or the Son of God, but plays off the themes of Tebow’s faith and his new team – borrowing from the J-E-T-S to promote J-E-S-U-S, with a fish for a football, and “MY” replacing “NY” with a color scheme that will be familiar to Jets fans. We don’t take sides on the field or in the hereafter — we just try to make fans happy, and this shirt should fit Tebow followers to a tee. It’s available in green, white or grey in sizes small through 4XL. (Other colors/sizes/styles available on request)
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I’m done here for awhile.
Yea OT as I said yesterday I do agree with you. Only reason why I think Tebow has a case no matter how small it is, is because the company said it was a reference to him. NFL has a much bigger case than Tebow for sure.
Also it will cause others I think to try to do the same thing and be a bit more cautious with it.
OTAs are underway. YAY lol.
Thanks for the link Tide. I actually didn’t see their website, as I didn’t want to add to the increase in web traffic their site is getting as a result of this lawsuit. I didn’t realize they were so closely relating it to Tebow, which will most likely be their downfall. I was just intrigued at first from a business standpoint, as I know how hard it is for a small business to advertise. No harm intended.
The Tebow topic is obviously a lightning rod issue of epic proportions, and I did not mean to ruffle any feathers. I just brought it up today to relieve some pressure off the “neck”, as everything there seems to be fair game.. This blog is a great platform for Broncos fans from all over to chat about our beloved Broncos, especially for those of us who live outside of Broncos Country! A good debate is great IMO, but we all can’t take things so seriously here, and I agree the personal attacks could be done without. I hope you stick around Tide, as I enjoy your input, and I remember one of the first things I asked you here was if you were trying to create some waves…