Here’s a complete update from Tuesday morning’s padded practice.
ROLL CALL
Linebacker Mario Haggan sat out practice today as he continues to nurse a shoulder injury suffered against Buffalo.
Safety David Bruton missed practice again after as he recovers from a concussion suffered vs. the Bills. Head Coach John Fox said Bruton “is doing fine.”
Offensive lineman Stanley Daniels participated in practice after missing some time due to injury.
DAILY JUKEBOX
Songs from today’s stretching session were:
DRILL STATIONS
After the team stretch, the players broke into position drills and the entire defense spent time working on forcing and recovering fumbles at various stations.
While the defensive backs worked on strip-sacks, the linebackers spent a good amount of time shedding blocks.
On the offensive side of the ball, the wide receivers worked on catching deep passes to the corner. They had the added challenge of battling the sun, which was right in their eyes as they looked up to make the catch.
The fullbacks -– Austin Sylvester and Spencer Larsen -– worked off to the side, attacking a sled with Running Backs coach Eric Studesville barking out orders. The running backs ran through footwork drills.
After position work, the offense and defense came together to work against one another.
Three members of the O-line went up against two D-linemen and a linebacker in a run drill where they worked on filling gaps.
Wide receivers and defensive backs went up against each other and while the offense usually had the upper-hand, safety Kyle McCarthy and cornerback Andre’ Goodman each made nice plays locating the deep ball and making up ground to force an incompletion.
TEAM DRILLS
The first team session was almost entirely run-based.
Defensive coaches instructed players to swarm, wrap-up and try to strip the ball loose during each and every play. Linebacker Wesley Woodyard was particularly active during the session, making several stops in the backfield.
The following team session involved more passing plays and quarterback Kyle Orton produced a couple highlights.
QUICK HITS
“We’re getting used to our in-season practice schedule,” Fox said. “We don’t condition in camp, but we condition when the season starts.”
-Max Henson
Tags: Preseason
I must say, a bend but don’t break D took us to 6-0 once, before they fell apart. But this time we have a new mentality and younger legs and more talent. I would prefer if we didn’t bend but as long as we hold em to 3 … we can win … heck … thats how teams kicked our butts last year lol. TRB
WE ALLOWED 114.5 NOT 141.5!!!!
What are we going to do once COX get a 30 to life? He has looked pretty solid to me. He will leave a hole.
Ok so I’m going to need one of you to talk me off my high horse. It may be my passion for the Broncos getting the best of me here. I’m reading all the blogs like i do and watch all the preseason games and I see a different swagger to our team. Miller and Doom are nasty and should have dominant years and our linebackers are not to be taken lightly either. Rahim Moore is a nice addition to go along with Dawk, I’m excited to see those 2 roaming the backside of the secondary. Eric Decker is going to have a breakout season, Royal looks good and healthy and Brandon Llyod is a freak! Our O-line is massive and talented. Orton’s looking determined and confident and the combo of Moreno and McGahee (I’m going to call them the M&M boys) will provide a nice change of pace. My only concern is our DT, little bit of question mark there. Otherwise I see no reason this team can’t have a successful season and when I say successful season I mean a winning season. What chew know peeps, you feeling me on this or am I in the clouds?
Go Broncos!
Not interested in seeing Orton get hurt, and I believe Orton may continue to do well as long as the Broncos are healthy and on top of their game. On the other hand, Orton doesn’t operate with a positive outlook on life. He gives the feel that he’s down on the media, the fans, Tebow, and his protection. He is just negative. I cringe every time he’s in front of the mic. Because he is negative – he can’t perform under pressure. He is not an over-comer. He will fail in critical redzone plays, and he can’t handle the playoffs. This stuff is well known
The only thing that makes sense to me is that Elway, Fox, McCoy are making certain that Tebow doesn’t have his opportunity in Bronco land in order to complete the ousting of the McDaniels era.
Tebow got relegated to 3rd string for week 2 after being the most entertaining, best stats, highest QB rating of the 3. Makes no sense. Tebow has more tools / tricks in his bag than Orton and Quinn put together and that stuff wins games. The only reason coaches historically want traditional QB’s who are pocket passers is that they tend to stay healthy longer. I get it – coaches are really interested in keeping Tebow healthy for the long haul.
I feel you OHIO!!!
Lmao @ Brian
And man, MANDIEGO! That is the best philosophical outlook on how to be a successful franchise that I’ve ever heard.
As for this QB debate, I’ve been in Ortons corner all along. Let’s just hope he surprises all of Broncos Country
(now that it’s official)
GO BRONCOS, Return of Mile High Magic in 2011!!!!!!!!!!!
Be careful or you will get accused of being one of those Tebow fans…lol
whats up with people saying that tebow fans are going to have to face the so called facts that Tebow is a bust.
Elway said that Quinn gets a chance to back up Orton last Saturday against the bills tebow was first all competing.
can someone please tell me were the ousting of tebow comes into play? because i have yet to here anybody say that tebow is out.
now we get to read all these Rumor stories that Tebow is going to get traded. once again the media speculates and everybody else adds their opinions and it becomes facts SO THEY THINK!!!!
I could understand if someone from broncos front office or coaches gave hints but that’s not the case.
Orton gets a chance to improve this year and in return his trade value will rise.
what a Joke for people to say that QUINN has out played tebow all camp.
What about all his INT’s he throws one every time he is on the field, everyday as a matter of fact.
A huge factor that we have not talked about is our scheme’s/game plans. McDonkey had, in my opinion, terrible game plans and he was so stubborn that when the game wasn’t going well he could not swallow his ego and try something else.
We are not seeing most of the complicated aspects to our schemes, but that fade on first and goal is an example of poor playcalling. I know I know it is preseason so I will hold my opinion.
I have a Sneaky suspicion that Miller is going to contend for Rookie of the year.
Move over Freeney and Mathis here comes some young blood Miller and the DOOM!!!!!
you watch miller Jersey sales are going to Boom in bronco land.
I am exited to have miller on the team talk about humble and classy.
did anybody hear his interview today on Jim Rome radio show?
I want to know has anyone heard about McCoy scripting the first 15 plays of the game. Shanahan was famous for that and McDaniels had some success with it when he tried it last season.
Also I’m not concerned about our quarterback situation. I feel like Orton, Tebow, and Quinn could all win games in this league. We’re lucky to have 3 capable starters.
I’ve been pro Tebow all along for a number of reasons that I’ve detailed in the past. Now that Orton is named the starter I will support him. A person will rise or fall when faced with adversity, and we’ll soon find out what camp Orton will be in. I really do hope he breaks out this year because as I’ve said before, his play and our W’s will silence the critics and skeptics. If we’re rolling along at a mediocre pace or are eliminated from the play offs early then I will be back on the Tebow bandwagon.
Miller has always been in contention for ROY … actually at the top. Because stats are what make a rookie of the year, such as sacks and ints. So short of a thousand yard rookie back or a pro bowl caliber rookie QB … the Prize should go to Miller, Dareus or PP. Cuz Miller will bring in the sacks and possibly interceptions. We will see. TRB
Hey Bay when are the season predictions again? I have looked at the schedule an have a pretty good idea of where we will be at this season.
Also to the Tebow vs. Orton conversation, give it a rest the decision has been made there is absolutely nothing any of us have the power to change. For Tebow lovers Elway has come out and said Tebow is not going anywhere so expect him to start next year or later this year if we are that far out of playoff contention, which I highly doubt.
Let us focus on other things like how on the Von Miller sack he only gave the QB like 2 seconds to find a player, and the fact that our Starting O held a defense that had 8 sacks last week only got 2 total against us.
I got an idea haha.. we don’t need to cut nate jones we could probably trade him to the giants who have lost i think 3 of there CBs for like a 5th round draft pick.
I dont think ANYONE is desperate enough to trade for Nate lol
Giants lost Marvin Austin for the season with a torn pec.
man these pecs are starting to be the new ACL … maybe I just hadn’t paid attention to it in the past until Doom but either teams ask Dlinemen to do some unbelievable stuff using thier chest muscles or conditioning needs to be focused on the chest. Cuz it always happens to linemen mostly. Thats a heck of a loss to the Giants. TRB
I like it that our schedule has some “easier” opponents at the start … we’ve got an offense and a defense that is going to need time to gel – they’ll get a better opportunity to do that than if we played New England and Green Bay or someone like the Steelers or the Ravens right out of the box … plus, we’ll probably pick up some waiver guys after Sept 3 – more than most teams, probably, and these guys will have NO time to fit in … so easing into the schedule will play out positively for us, I believe … for a while now I’ve thought this team will probably go 6 – 10 … is it a big jump to 7 – 9?? … yeah, I think it is … I really wish we’d have scheduled some of the really good teams for preseason – it’s hard to get a handle on where we are vs. Buffalo and Arizona … or maybe not … if Buffalo had handled us, I guess we’d have had some idea … at least we can picture us ahead of last year … we could have been 6 – 10 last year, with just a little luck … Washington and the Jets come to mind (I think Washington was last year) … any way, if we look good the next two weeks, I’m tempted to go 7 – 9, in spite of how much preseason can be misinterpreted … we really do have a lot of offensive weapons, and have had … I’m still scared at CB … if Champ goes down for any length of time, we’re dead … right now, at least …
As for the Tebow controversy – PLEASE, let it die … whatever happens, happens – let’s just talk about what is …
Wiemen…
No, the Washington game was two years ago! Remember when we still had Marshall because he had those two very long touchdown passes from Orton when he was wide open!
Copied and pasted (From baylinorcrush) post about season predictions…
Thanks since 1972, coming from one of our senior member it means a lot, and let me post this once again for you and everyone who wishes to participate:
About upcoming contests:
-The season record prediction contest entries will be taken starting Aug 29th through September 10th only.
-The first score prediction contest will start for the first regular season game with entries taken for that between Sept 5th and 11th only.
-And after that entries for the weekly score prediction contest will be taken only starting the day AFTER the previous game right up to the day BEFORE game day. Exception: bye week when you will have to wait until OCT 17th to place your entry for the following game, that way I get a week off too.
So please all mark your calendars, thanks.
PS, remember just fun and games between bloggers, no affiliation with the Bronco organization whatsoever, so no prizes, just looking for pride and avoiding shame, that’s how I roll.
Ah, yes – the Washington game … I think he had Marshall (or somebody) WIDE OPEN and missed him – that would have given us an “insurmountable” lead … I do remember that game … but we’ll get our revenge against the Raiders, when we sack that QB a lot of times … I really do think we’ll BLAST the Raiders on Monday night … I can’t imagine a team being higher than the Broncos will be that night … I can hardly wait!!!!!!
“Whatever they want me to do — whatever I can do to help the team — that’s what I’m going to do,” Tebow said. “I believe I can help the team in a lot of different ways, and whatever they ask me to do, they’ll have my whole heart.”
“I didn’t have any thoughts on it to be honest,” Orton said after practice Tuesday. “Just keep going, business as usual.”
BFE, I do remember that my faithful broncos bro!! Defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS and you have to RUN THE ROCK to win the BIG ONE. THANKS BRO!!
Mandiego – you said – “It doesn’t matter who our QB is if our defense becomes that long forgotten “orange crush” of the past and we can dominate on the ground. Orton will win us championships if we can run for over 200 yards a game and consistently force 3 and out’s.”
I’ve previously said my piece in support of Tebow and will not repeat it here. I think the issue is dead at the moment. I think he would benefit by trying to lower his profile at the moment, although he is constantly hounded for interviews by everyone and is critiqued in the national media every day, so I’m not sure that’s possible. In fact, there may be some interviews he is required to do by the NFL and/or the team policy. But I think the less exposure he gets to the constant controversy that comes out of the interview questions and extreme scrutiny of every word he says and every snap he takes is probably not beneficial right now.
But in reference to what Mandiego said, I just disagree with the belief that “It doesn’t matter who our QB is as long as our defense [is good].” Recent history (past decade+) has shown that on the whole, the QB very much matters in terms of the teams that consistently win. A game manger type QB just is not enough these days.
Also, you are asking for a lot out of the rest of the team for the defense to get all opposing teams to go 3 and out and to have 200+ rushing yards a game. Yes, those unlikely stats might decrease the need for the top tier QB, but they seem really unlikely on a consistent basis. I’m not sure how many NFL teams have 200+ rushing yards per game consistently, but I know that 100+ rushing yards is considered pretty good for the teams with elite QB’s and opens up room for them to really dominate.
I also just can’t see many defenses realistically being able to consistently get Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Rothlisberger or Rivers (our division) to go 3 and out most of the time. In fact, the general consensus to beating Manning seems to have become to try to limit how many times he can even get on the field because it’s assumed he’s going to score at least a field goal on almost 90% + of his drives.
So the idea is to have a really great ball control offense and hope he gets 7-8 tries on offense per game and that 1 or 2 of them won’t produce points. The Saints did that with the surprise onside kick in the Super Bowl two years ago. That took away a single possession for Manning that he was supposed to start the second half with while in the lead and changed the whole game. That really put the Colts in a situation where they had to sore every drive. I think that is pretty hard to do for most teams. Of course, not every team has one of the elite QB’s, but I think 3 and out almost all the time is probably unlikely.
I will say that it is time to support Orton because he’s who the coaches have decided is best. Not supporting him is divisive to the team. However, I think it’s naïve to think that it doesn’t matter who the QB is in the NFL as it is played today. I don’t think teams can consistently rush for 200 yards a game or force 3 and outs on elite QB’s. I think that for the Broncos to have a real shot at being contenders, Orton will need to improve his game, especially when the chips are on the line. And maybe he will.
I think that it is more likely that Orton can improve some than to hope for such an extraordinarily dominating running game and such a strong defense. Even the Ravens and Steelers type teams can’t win based on defense and ball control alone. And the difference between the Steelers and Raven is very obvious – the Steelers have a playmaker at QB who finds ways to extend plays and win. And Rothlesberger over the years has shown that he can be a big time passing QB when the game is on the line. Orton will have to step up and do that.
I do think Orton has an outstanding receiving corps that can boost his play some and that can help put more points on the board. The team as a whole really needs balance in all phases of the game. I think it’s possible to get a strongly balanced team in all phases that is a contender, but I can’t agree that the QB position is not that important in today’s NFL.
We need to support the team as a whole. If Tebow is not going to be traded, then it’s up to him to do what is necessary to play QB in Fox’s system. I will make one comment about Tebow’s ad lib style, which has a long history of being very successful. It may be different, but it is not something teams cannot do. Florida did it with great success in an organized fashion. It’s not just chaos, just like the Colts running no huddle on ever play with Manning doing all his audibles is not chaotic to the team because that’s what they practice. So it’s possible to organize a scheme that can utilize Tebow’s playmaking skills. The offense as it stands now is not set up that way, except possibly in the red zone.
Ok. Let’s kick the Raiders in the opening game. And from my point of view, the Raiders really didn’t get a lot with Terrell Pryor. He was pretty much an underperforming college QB based on the hype and predictions of many who said he would be the next Vince Young. He never came close to being Vince Young. Young was incredibly dominant and college and has had trouble adapting to the pro game on a consistent basis. Pryor never came close to what Young did even in college. He is way behind in knowing what to do in the NFL.
Although he has speed, I don’t believe he has the overall dominating physical skills of someone like Young, let alone the knowledge of what to do as an NFL QB. And the idea of putting him at WR as some have said seems pretty far fetched. I can’t see him being able to make that kind of switch without an enormous amount of work. So long term, I don’t see that Terrell Pryor is going to be a big benefit for the Raiders in my opinion. That’s all the better for us.
Ok. Let’s see how the season goes and hope for the best from everyone. Orton is the man, so let’s support him. If he does well, that’s great. I hope that If there starts to be a semblance to what happed last year, the other QB’s will get their chance.
I sure wish some people would really just let it rest, I think what mandiego said was correct run the ball get some first downs get off the field on third downs thats what wins games. I think the guy that just wrote half a book LOL over read what he was trying to say. Orton is a safe QB protects the ball and hes a good manager of the game, for now itll have to do. Go My Broncos
@Miller, Agreed. What I do find impressive about Orton’s play from last year is how well he did protect the ball considering he absolutely HAD to throw. Our defense was porous at best, letting opposition score nearly 30 points per game, and that joker McDaniel’s was soooo efficient (*cough, cough) at creating running plays that more often than not our running backs would be stopped at the line or in the backfield. Which meant we were often playing too tight contests or from behind. So defenses could play tighter coverage because they KNEW it would be a pass play, and rushers could crash and collapse all day, but somehow, whether it’s because our wide receivers are all the most talented and under rated in the league, or good reads from the pocket, passes either gained positive yardage or we moved to the next down; not a lot of stupid throws being picked off. That says to me that there is a rapport between the QB and the WR’s which, when balanced with a decent run game and strong D, could make a pretty tough Bronco team this year.
I’m looking forward to it! GO BRONCS!
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