Comments on: McCoy Expects ‘Fun, Exciting Offense’ http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/ Thu, 20 Jun 2013 05:50:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: BeastFromEast92 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166084 BeastFromEast92 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:00:27 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166084 I think a Rookie wage scale should be implemented,depending on how a player performs,like incentives,yards,TDs,performancethings like that.Then they will have to earn the big bucks! They underachieve,then they make an average salary! jomho! I think a Rookie wage scale should be implemented,depending on how a player performs,like incentives,yards,TDs,performancethings like that.Then they will have to earn the big bucks!
They underachieve,then they make an average salary! jomho!

]]> By: brian_schneider http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166069 brian_schneider Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:05:28 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166069 I think that a rookie wage scale would be a positive thing. The top rookies will always get a decent contract but it will help them not be so outrageous. I think it will help the owners out by not dishing out big dough for bust players. After they play out their rookie contract of are in the last year of it, then if they have proven themselves worthy, they'll get an extension or whatever. I agree, the owners need to stand firm on this issue. Giving into the players demand for more money is what they've been doing. Which is why the players loved the old CBA and the owners wanted out. This whole thing has really kind of turned into a mess. (Like we didn't already know that) I have some friends who thought this thing would be solved overnight and everthing would be fine. When it comes to money matters...nothing...nothing is settled that easily. Especially when two sides are wanting the same thing. That'd be like having two Cookie Monsters on Seaseme Street and only one cookie...two Oscar the Grouchs and only one trash can...well you get my point. Anyway, I've kind of have become numb on the whole situation. I'll be more surprised when they get a deal struck than I am that it has taken this long to come to an agreement. Harry Potter in 5 days!!! I know, nothing to do with football, but I finally have something to look forward to. I think that a rookie wage scale would be a positive thing. The top rookies will always get a decent contract but it will help them not be so outrageous. I think it will help the owners out by not dishing out big dough for bust players. After they play out their rookie contract of are in the last year of it, then if they have proven themselves worthy, they’ll get an extension or whatever.
I agree, the owners need to stand firm on this issue. Giving into the players demand for more money is what they’ve been doing. Which is why the players loved the old CBA and the owners wanted out.
This whole thing has really kind of turned into a mess. (Like we didn’t already know that) I have some friends who thought this thing would be solved overnight and everthing would be fine. When it comes to money matters…nothing…nothing is settled that easily. Especially when two sides are wanting the same thing. That’d be like having two Cookie Monsters on Seaseme Street and only one cookie…two Oscar the Grouchs and only one trash can…well you get my point. Anyway, I’ve kind of have become numb on the whole situation. I’ll be more surprised when they get a deal struck than I am that it has taken this long to come to an agreement.

Harry Potter in 5 days!!! I know, nothing to do with football, but I finally have something to look forward to.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166068 baylinorcrush Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:03:36 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166068 Mortensen and Shefter also reporting that the new 'hard" deadline of the 21st might be the one that produces a new cba: There is a growing belief inside league circles that the NFL and NFL Players Association will have an agreement in place that can be ratified during the July 21 league meetings in Atlanta, according to sources familiar with the state of negotiations. The level of overall confidence in reaching an agreement is evident in a document known as "The Transition Rules" that NFL teams would follow if and when both players and owners ratify a new labor agreement. The Transition Rules spell out an actual timeline for roster transactions under the July 21 deal scenario, including the start of the new league year during which free agents would become eligible for the open market on July 28. With the tight timeline, teams will be scrambling to fill rosters that must be set at 90 players on roughly Aug. 3 -- but all training camps would be able to open on time. If the deal were to be ratified July 21, it would assure that almost all preseason games would be played, according to sources. The one game in danger would be the Aug. 7 Hall of Fame matchup between the Bears and Rams. There are still mixed opinions and thoughts as to whether that game could or would be played. The Transition Rules also would include a designated period for teams to sign undrafted free agent rookies, a pool that routinely provides productive and even star players. With an agreement reached by the 21st this is what the schedule would most likely look like: • (July 21): Educate the clubs on the news league rules and allow voluntary training for teams and agents. • (July 25): Sign undrafted rookies, as well as give free agents a chance to re-sign with their teams. • (July 28) -- League year starts and free agency begins. • (Aug. 2) -- Rosters must be set at 90 players. • (Aug. 3) -- Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets. • (Aug. 7 ) -- A four-day match period for teams to match restricted free-agent offer sheets. • (Aug 12) -- Deadline for rookies to sign contracts (not yet agreed upon). • (Aug. 16) -- Signing period for restricted free agents ends, as does the signing period for franchise and transition tenders. • (Aug. 29) -- Deadline for players to report to earned credit for an accrued season toward free agency. CRAZY!!!! A whirlwind of activities that is bound to drive all involved nuts, but heck if that's what it will take to have a whole season have at it! With all that agenda on the docket it's easy to see why if it goes past the 21st it will be nearly impossible to implement all of the above without the need to have a re-organized season if one at all. I mean that's a lot of stuff needing to fall into place, and that list certainly doesn't even address all of the issues that will neeed to be addressed I'm sure, CRAZY!!! One person close to the talks said this weekend, "We're at the 10, maybe the 15 yard line, and we're marching down the field, and both sides want to score and I think we will." Yet the disagreement over a rookie wage system for those who were drafted in late April is now the darkest cloud hanging over negotiations that are nearly complete on most major issues. "The rookie wage scale is the only part I'm worried about," one source involved in the talks said this weekend. "They've finished the other important parts. The only issue left that can cause a problem is the rookie wage scale." HUGE issue right there since it's what basically sets the barometer for all future contracts for the vet players. The owners have to have a scale since it's totally out of hand and the players don't want to give an inch. Obviously a ways to go in these negotiations and since I feel the ball is in the players' court now, it will be up to them to do most of the cave in on that front, the owners have to stand firm on that scale issue, the future of the league rides on that. Mortensen and Shefter also reporting that the new ‘hard” deadline of the 21st might be the one that produces a new cba:

There is a growing belief inside league circles that the NFL and NFL Players Association will have an agreement in place that can be ratified during the July 21 league meetings in Atlanta, according to sources familiar with the state of negotiations.

The level of overall confidence in reaching an agreement is evident in a document known as “The Transition Rules” that NFL teams would follow if and when both players and owners ratify a new labor agreement.

The Transition Rules spell out an actual timeline for roster transactions under the July 21 deal scenario, including the start of the new league year during which free agents would become eligible for the open market on July 28.

With the tight timeline, teams will be scrambling to fill rosters that must be set at 90 players on roughly Aug. 3 — but all training camps would be able to open on time.

If the deal were to be ratified July 21, it would assure that almost all preseason games would be played, according to sources.

The one game in danger would be the Aug. 7 Hall of Fame matchup between the Bears and Rams. There are still mixed opinions and thoughts as to whether that game could or would be played.

The Transition Rules also would include a designated period for teams to sign undrafted free agent rookies, a pool that routinely provides productive and even star players.

With an agreement reached by the 21st this is what the schedule would most likely look like:

• (July 21): Educate the clubs on the news league rules and allow voluntary training for teams and agents.

• (July 25): Sign undrafted rookies, as well as give free agents a chance to re-sign with their teams.

• (July 28) — League year starts and free agency begins.

• (Aug. 2) — Rosters must be set at 90 players.

• (Aug. 3) — Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets.

• (Aug. 7 ) — A four-day match period for teams to match restricted free-agent offer sheets.

• (Aug 12) — Deadline for rookies to sign contracts (not yet agreed upon).

• (Aug. 16) — Signing period for restricted free agents ends, as does the signing period for franchise and transition tenders.

• (Aug. 29) — Deadline for players to report to earned credit for an accrued season toward free agency.

CRAZY!!!! A whirlwind of activities that is bound to drive all involved nuts, but heck if that’s what it will take to have a whole season have at it! With all that agenda on the docket it’s easy to see why if it goes past the 21st it will be nearly impossible to implement all of the above without the need to have a re-organized season if one at all. I mean that’s a lot of stuff needing to fall into place, and that list certainly doesn’t even address all of the issues that will neeed to be addressed I’m sure, CRAZY!!!

One person close to the talks said this weekend, “We’re at the 10, maybe the 15 yard line, and we’re marching down the field, and both sides want to score and I think we will.”

Yet the disagreement over a rookie wage system for those who were drafted in late April is now the darkest cloud hanging over negotiations that are nearly complete on most major issues.

“The rookie wage scale is the only part I’m worried about,” one source involved in the talks said this weekend. “They’ve finished the other important parts. The only issue left that can cause a problem is the rookie wage scale.”

HUGE issue right there since it’s what basically sets the barometer for all future contracts for the vet players. The owners have to have a scale since it’s totally out of hand and the players don’t want to give an inch. Obviously a ways to go in these negotiations and since I feel the ball is in the players’ court now, it will be up to them to do most of the cave in on that front, the owners have to stand firm on that scale issue, the future of the league rides on that.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166065 baylinorcrush Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:31:31 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166065 Even though progress has undeniably been made big issues remain for a new cba: NEW YORK — A rookie wage scale and free agency for veterans appear to be the biggest stumbling blocks to ending the NFL lockout. Several people with knowledge of the talks told The Associated Press that such key issues as splitting total revenues — the major reason for the dispute — the salary cap, fewer offseason workouts and the length of a new collective bargaining agreement are close to being completed. The people spoke anonymously because details are supposed to remain private. Owners and players are to meet again, beginning Tuesday, after two days of long negotiations last week. Lawyers from both sides are to meet today. The sticky topics include limits on rookie salaries and signing bonuses. Another is the number of transition tags for free agents, with right of first refusal. No doubt that these rookie issues require a stern stand from the owners since those salary and bonuses awarded to rookies are essentially at the root of the financial problems the league feels they have, and of course I can see why owners are very troubled letting their best players go UFAs after four years so they would like to have a chance at retaining some key players with a first right of refusal/transition tag sort of thing. Which would instantly cut down the pool of players we so badly need to look at, which brings us back down to the reality of the matter that this is much more than a one year rebuilding process we are going through, no matter how hard that maybe to stomach. This season for us is just to get us back on the right track since we have long been on the train to nowhere. Next year on the other hand, if we complete the rebuild and find out that Tebow is indeed the man, has the potential to be the biggest year we've had since 2005. Even though progress has undeniably been made big issues remain for a new cba:

NEW YORK — A rookie wage scale and free agency for veterans appear to be the biggest stumbling blocks to ending the NFL lockout.

Several people with knowledge of the talks told The Associated Press that such key issues as splitting total revenues — the major reason for the dispute — the salary cap, fewer offseason workouts and the length of a new collective bargaining agreement are close to being completed.

The people spoke anonymously because details are supposed to remain private.

Owners and players are to meet again, beginning Tuesday, after two days of long negotiations last week. Lawyers from both sides are to meet today.

The sticky topics include limits on rookie salaries and signing bonuses. Another is the number of transition tags for free agents, with right of first refusal.

No doubt that these rookie issues require a stern stand from the owners since those salary and bonuses awarded to rookies are essentially at the root of the financial problems the league feels they have, and of course I can see why owners are very troubled letting their best players go UFAs after four years so they would like to have a chance at retaining some key players with a first right of refusal/transition tag sort of thing. Which would instantly cut down the pool of players we so badly need to look at, which brings us back down to the reality of the matter that this is much more than a one year rebuilding process we are going through, no matter how hard that maybe to stomach. This season for us is just to get us back on the right track since we have long been on the train to nowhere. Next year on the other hand, if we complete the rebuild and find out that Tebow is indeed the man, has the potential to be the biggest year we’ve had since 2005.

]]> By: BeastFromEast92 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166040 BeastFromEast92 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:48:48 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166040 When the game is on the line Orton chokes,we all seen what a Rookie could do in the same situations Orton was in,he has a Helluva lot more experience than Tebow,but not the IT factor!!! If a Rookie beats you out of your starting spot,when you are considered a Vet,you're not that good,sorry,just me!!! Orton is a choke artist,and if he ever wins a SB,he better be on one Helluva great team!...look at the Jets..great Defense great Offense,Sanchez isn't good enough,IMO A team is only as good as it's leader! I'm not saying you have to have a GREAT QB to win a SB,but he can't be a guy that just....don't have to win it,just don't lose it for us kinda QB. When the game is on the line Orton chokes,we all seen what a Rookie could do in the same situations Orton was in,he has a Helluva lot more experience than Tebow,but not the IT factor!!!

If a Rookie beats you out of your starting spot,when you are considered a Vet,you’re not that good,sorry,just me!!!

Orton is a choke artist,and if he ever wins a SB,he better be on one Helluva great team!…look at the Jets..great Defense great Offense,Sanchez isn’t good enough,IMO

A team is only as good as it’s leader!
I’m not saying you have to have a GREAT QB to win a SB,but he can’t be a guy that just….don’t have to win it,just don’t lose it for us kinda QB.

]]> By: strandoftds http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166039 strandoftds Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:23:36 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166039 Well, then they better have a deal done, signed, sealed and delivered by no later than July 21 if they want to have a preseason on time. Even that date may be to late. Well, then they better have a deal done, signed, sealed and delivered by no later than July 21 if they want to have a preseason on time. Even that date may be to late.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166038 baylinorcrush Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:06:13 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166038 The players keep taking all these matters to court, but all of a sudden they become nice boys and go ahead and go to training camp without a cba signed and filed the way it's supposed to, just because they agree in "principal"? I don't buy that, and if the players do they are stupider than the bag of hammers I thought they were, LOL. The players keep taking all these matters to court, but all of a sudden they become nice boys and go ahead and go to training camp without a cba signed and filed the way it’s supposed to, just because they agree in “principal”? I don’t buy that, and if the players do they are stupider than the bag of hammers I thought they were, LOL.

]]> By: strandoftds http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166037 strandoftds Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:59:02 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166037 We won`t know until it happens, or if it happens. If not then we`ll all be left hanging. We won`t know until it happens, or if it happens. If not then we`ll all be left hanging.

]]> By: baylinorcrush http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166036 baylinorcrush Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:48:17 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166036 I don't see how that would work out for the players since they don't like off seasons to start with including training camp, sounds like wishful thinking on the owners part. I don’t see how that would work out for the players since they don’t like off seasons to start with including training camp, sounds like wishful thinking on the owners part.

]]> By: strandoftds http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/mccoy-expects-fun-exciting-offense/comment-page-7/#comment-166035 strandoftds Sun, 10 Jul 2011 22:55:07 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/?p=10624#comment-166035 Henryac, that would be huge on lifting the lockout and opening training camps with the agreement in principal you mentioned earlier. Heck ya! Henryac, that would be huge on lifting the lockout and opening training camps with the agreement in principal you mentioned earlier. Heck ya!

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