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By: WieminCA

WieminCA — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:05:03 +0000

Quite an interesting Monday … tempted to say “enjoy it while we can”, but I won’t (or did I?) … anyway – lots to learn by everybody from the Miami game … what works – what doesn’t … you guys who are bad-mouthing the coaching staff – remember, they have a plan, it’s just not YOUR plan … maybe it will work, maybe it could be better (in our eyes), but it’s their plan that is going to be followed, so quit bad-mouthing … seems you just HAVE to have something to bad-mouth … I’m sure their plan is to take “baby-steps”, and find out what works best and what is learned quickest … they know they have a diamond-in-the-rough, maybe a Clydesdale, maybe a thorobred, but it’s THEIR job to find out which … they’re smart enough to see the intracacies and subtleties of the situation … you’re willing to give Tebow “time” – do the same with the coaching staff … geez – we’ve gone through this before …

On another front, the papers in SoCal were full of the Chargers lamenting their “blown” victory in NYC yesterday … it’s the same after almost every loss – “they didn’t beat us – we beat ourselves” … the Chargers have been built up as “Gods” for so long, with so much talent, that they should never lose a game … it’s only when they play bad that they lose – never that the other team played a great game, took advantage of their mistakes, and BEAT them … it takes more than talent to win games – it takes a TEAM, working together … so – in a way they are right – they don’t play well enough together as a team to win games against good teams, and lots of times lose to poorer teams … look at last year … their window-of-opportunity is surely whistling by … soon they may be like the Raiders, who really laid an egg yesterday … wow – all of a sudden our division is so mediocre that any of us have a chance …

Ain’t it great to be a Bronco fan!!!!!!!!!!!

By: mx310

mx310 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:11:20 +0000

110 >> Percent given by our guys when Tebow is at the helm. That wins ballgames. That’s why the Miracle in Miami is the re-start beginning of a winning Denver ball club with Tim Tebow…getting better and better!!

Go Broncos!!

By: badluck727

badluck727 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:44:12 +0000

First of all Great job by the defense, 2nd poor offense for the first 57 mins. Good win

By: RH709

RH709 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:21:40 +0000

McCoy needs to design plays for a quarterback who is still learning reads and progressions. Tebow lacks the game experience to do this quickly. He will improve over time but right now the O.C. needs to help him by doing roll outs, screens and other plays that require simple reads. As Tebow improves and gets comfortable you can pepper in the traditional plays on a more regular basis.

Tebow needs to improve but this should be a team goal to get him to his potential and that starts with coaching and play calls. We all know Tebow knows he played poorly and he will work on it. I hope the coaching staff takes note and trys to help as well.

Orton was good at identifying the blitz and getting it picked up allowing himself crazy amounts of time in the pocket. I hope his ego isn’t too large and he teaches Tebow this valuable trait.

By: daddybronc

daddybronc — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:02:30 +0000

I’m thinking that there is an still an element somewhere that results in – “Bronco choke”

While Tebow obviously choked some (what Carnage defines as a good pass is one that ‘is as’ eligible for play to the defense as it is to the offense – Tebow did throw a couple of very good passes); some of the bad passes were QB/ receiver – on completely different pages, the dropped pass chokes, the Prater ‘chokes’, maybe play-calling chokes (but I don’t think so.) What causes a team to choke badly? The skill / talent is there, the confidence is in place, the game planning and preparation is there – and yet a team still is completely inept at execution. And then, what flips that invisible switch called ‘momentum’?

While the Bronco locker room has endured a ‘tenured demon’ of doubt / – and while a ‘newby’ QB feeds that ‘doubt’, and the ‘haters’ feed that doubt, and dumb coaching that would tell a ‘newby’ QB that he is one game at a time feeds doubt (rumor?)- is that what we saw yesterday?

The bigger question is: has Tebow done enough to slay the demon? He obviously did at the end of the MIA game – but ‘doubt’ is creeping in already because laming the Lion is not nearly the same as gaffing the Dolphin.

I think the the Lions D will try to duplicate what MIA did and in doing so will cheat themselves. They will have to adjust early and will not be able to continue the blitz packages like MIA into the 4th quarter.

The Broncos greatest asset is that the Lions will underestimate the Broncos – this win will also require the defense of the Broncos to keep the Lions O below average in production.

The ‘haters’ who are already going after the Lions and undermining them in order to be able to minimize the significance of a Bronco victory – can just ’shut up’ now. Significant competitive effort and a close score against the Lions will indicate huge progress, by DEN in coaching/ QB/ defense/ and O-line, beyond the ‘dark age’ of Bronco football.

My optimistic – wishful prediction.

DEN – 24 / DET – 21 Tebow writes his check for the future-

By: rayjr26

rayjr26 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:34:40 +0000

well, now that the shock and awe have worn off and most of the psycho’s have signed off im going to go ahead and chime in…
First off, HELL OF A TEAM WIN!! Team, you got that right? Not a Tebow win, but a team win. My dad texted me in a frenzy, he is convinced Tebow is “IT” in D town! Me? still not sold. I absolutely LOVE what TT did in the last 5 mins of that game, but no way is that something we can depend on every week. The Dolphins are one of the worst teams in the league folks! PERIOD. Tebow MUST play better in the future and honestly I think he will. There was a lot of rust, and nerves that needed to be handled before he could start showing us what we thought/hoped we were getting with him as starter. My dad keeps telling me that we just need to design our Offense around what Tebow does well. To a degree i agree with him, however, he still needs to be able to show that he can do the things that ALL NFL qb’s are expected to do. Last week when i made my prediction i said that i thought Tebow would do OK, not great but OK! That ultimately i thought it would be up to our D to keep us in the game. Well the D held up their end luckily, because if you truly look at the game TT put together, it was REALLY bad! Exciting, but BAD! And yet, I cant stop thinking he is only going to get better. I doubt he will ever be considered elite, but with another full off season and training camp, and hopefully a new O.C., i could see him being an average QB statistically. Of course its still those intangibles that make him special. I mean WOW! Crappy all day, and then its like someone just flipped a switch on that boy! AWESOME!! Combine that with the play of our D, our improved running game, and some magic on special teams (the onside kick, not the 2 miss FG’s. LOL), and i start smelling the Kool-aid again…and in case your wondering, its very orangey!! If Tebow can just settle down a bit, i think he will do better. I earlier mentioned that i thought we needed a new O.C., its not that Im mad because they wont play to Tebow’s strengths, its more about the complete lack of surprise with the play calling. I said last week that I hoped the Broncos came out and surprised everyone by going play action on their very first offensive play of the game and let Tebow chuck it downfield. That obviously didnt happen, in fact it was just the opposite. We ran the ball, then ran the ball, then ran the ball. Its really hard for ANY QB to get into a rhythm when he is only allowed 8 throws in a half! It looked exactly like Tebows first start last season against the raiders. Of course it doesnt help Tebows case any when his first pass is almost intercepted, and then he follows that up by several bad throws that at times were 15 yards off his wide open recievers. The Decker pass down the left hash was a TD if Decker is a 10th of a sec faster, or Tebow throws it 3 yds shorter. That in my opinion is simply a timing issue that needs to be worked on in practice. If you dont get to throw many deep balls you dont really have a good idea of the speed of your WR. That as much as anything, IMO, was why that ball was over thrown. In a couple weeks they hit that pass for a TD i think. Well, i cant really think of anything else to say so i guess i will call it good for now. If i think of anything else i will of course throw it out there! Oh, and Bay, did i get any points this week? i was 9 points off on my prediction for the game.

Keep on buckin broncos!
THE BATTLE IS WON IN THE TRENCHES!

By: wild horses

wild horses — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:20:51 +0000

Not to be agumentive but the last person to adjust the line is the center not the QB .

By: fansince77

fansince77 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:14:30 +0000

At times the O-line could’ve done better, but I would also point out that it is Tebow’s job to recognize a defense and make adjsutments as such — I believe this (and TT holding onto the ball too long at times) is why Orton often got less pressure: he recognized the defensive look and signaled for someone to pick up the pressure. Just a few more things that TT needs to work on — but that was expected as well.

By: RH709

RH709 — Mon, 24 Oct 2011 20:00:41 +0000

Honestly, it’s hard to decide what is what. Tebow looked HORRIBLE for three and a half quarters. Was it Tebow? Was it the constant blitzing? Was it inaccuracy? Was it playcalling?

I think yes to all of these. Tebow screwed up on 5 or 6 passes. He was hurried more than I ever saw Orton hurried this year. Then on some plays he had wide open recievers (I mean crazy open) and he throws it away or tucks to run 1/2 sec too soon. His reads were bad. The play calling was predictable.

To me, everyone had a hand in Tebow looking bad for 50 minutes, including Tebow.

Then seemingly out of nowhere. Tebow was accurate and threw recievers open. The Oline gave him time. The hurry up offense was used and the play calling was different.

Was it the prevent defense? Was it the shotgun? Was it the Oline? Was it the play calling?…Yes

I honestly think that Denver should start the game in a hurry up shotgun offense and see if they can get Tebow in stride early. Then maybe try to settle into a more run first attack. Also, let Tebow audible and let him throw on first down. Not just run, run, pass. Also, utalize the rollouts and easy read type option plays to help Tebow learn while still being comfortable.

I think everyone had a hand it the bad three quarters and everyone had a hand in the awesome 10 min. Use this tape to learn and structure the offense accordingly.

GO BRONCOS! Live as a team, die as a team!