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	<title>Comments on: Haynes Signed; Torain to IR</title>
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		<title>By: No Limit Soldier</title>
		<link>http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/haynes-signed-torain-to-ir/comment-page-2/#comment-22712</link>
		<dc:creator>No Limit Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason you can say that it looks suspect is maybe the Henry transaction, but I say that was caused by the nay sayers.  Everybody said we needed a premeir back to promote this teams offense in the presence of a rookie quarter back.  He gave in to the pressure and did what he thought was right for the team.  That was the bad decission by Shanny!  He has produced great backs here.  It&#039;s the system stupid!  You can&#039;t teach people to not fumble, the mistakes by the backs you call suspect are the problems of the backs and not the head coaches fault.  The reality is that many of back has come and gone, played well here and then went off to feed their ego someplace else, failed and rode off into the sunset.  Now why do you think that they did so well here and not anyplace else.  You can&#039;t Blame it all on Shanny.  I suppose the injuries are his fault to.  I hate that the man is not getting the vote of confidence from his own fans.  the main press bash him and then fans help to try and throw him under the bus!  I don&#039;t like the fact that we critcize his every move now, but if haynes works out,  The same names will be on here in two weeks saying that they were the first to be on the haynes band wagon.  My point is simple.  Why do we feel that we need a premier rb here when Shanny has proved more often than not that a big ego in the back field is unecissary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason you can say that it looks suspect is maybe the Henry transaction, but I say that was caused by the nay sayers.  Everybody said we needed a premeir back to promote this teams offense in the presence of a rookie quarter back.  He gave in to the pressure and did what he thought was right for the team.  That was the bad decission by Shanny!  He has produced great backs here.  It&#8217;s the system stupid!  You can&#8217;t teach people to not fumble, the mistakes by the backs you call suspect are the problems of the backs and not the head coaches fault.  The reality is that many of back has come and gone, played well here and then went off to feed their ego someplace else, failed and rode off into the sunset.  Now why do you think that they did so well here and not anyplace else.  You can&#8217;t Blame it all on Shanny.  I suppose the injuries are his fault to.  I hate that the man is not getting the vote of confidence from his own fans.  the main press bash him and then fans help to try and throw him under the bus!  I don&#8217;t like the fact that we critcize his every move now, but if haynes works out,  The same names will be on here in two weeks saying that they were the first to be on the haynes band wagon.  My point is simple.  Why do we feel that we need a premier rb here when Shanny has proved more often than not that a big ego in the back field is unecissary!</p>
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		<title>By: B-Marsh=#1</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Marsh=#1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know how anyone is saying to bring back Q. He had one good game against the Colts and that was it. Tatum bell is our best option. We traded him because we needed a DB and I doubt he wants a ton of money considering he has not played this year and would like to get on any team that wants him. He is a proven back in our system and that is just what we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know how anyone is saying to bring back Q. He had one good game against the Colts and that was it. Tatum bell is our best option. We traded him because we needed a DB and I doubt he wants a ton of money considering he has not played this year and would like to get on any team that wants him. He is a proven back in our system and that is just what we need.</p>
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		<title>By: n1stunna84</title>
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		<dc:creator>n1stunna84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What we all have to remember, is that even though we&#039;re beat up, we are playing some relatively easy games the rest of the way.  We have the Chiefs and Raiders, which should be W&#039;s.  The Jets have Bret Favre (&#039;nuff said), the Falcons are going to have to prove they can win on a consistant basis, the Panthers and the Chargers again.  If ol #6 can keep his head out of his a$$ and be smart for a few more games, we have a real shot at the division.  San Diego has the Steelers and the Colts the next two games, and SD has proven that they are not as good as EVERYONE thought they were going to be.

Don&#039;t forget that it doesn&#039;t matter who Shanny brings in, they do well.  Our O-Line is actually doing well this season too.  Lets go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we all have to remember, is that even though we&#8217;re beat up, we are playing some relatively easy games the rest of the way.  We have the Chiefs and Raiders, which should be W&#8217;s.  The Jets have Bret Favre (&#8217;nuff said), the Falcons are going to have to prove they can win on a consistant basis, the Panthers and the Chargers again.  If ol #6 can keep his head out of his a$$ and be smart for a few more games, we have a real shot at the division.  San Diego has the Steelers and the Colts the next two games, and SD has proven that they are not as good as EVERYONE thought they were going to be.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that it doesn&#8217;t matter who Shanny brings in, they do well.  Our O-Line is actually doing well this season too.  Lets go BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: greekbronco9</title>
		<link>http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/haynes-signed-torain-to-ir/comment-page-2/#comment-22709</link>
		<dc:creator>greekbronco9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter who plays MLB, the D-Line gets blown up every play</description>
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		<title>By: bigvon</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigvon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the guy is going to be a fullback and for those of you who dont understand NFL pay no one is signinganyone to any more than vetran minimum for the rest of the year unless you get them off waivers so you can sign who you want and make changes next yeear, like aquiring a real running back.  I love Shanny but to say we cant question his judgement on a RB is ridiculous we can questions it because right now things look suspect and they have for a while. what we should do trust his judgement. but we can and will question it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the guy is going to be a fullback and for those of you who dont understand NFL pay no one is signinganyone to any more than vetran minimum for the rest of the year unless you get them off waivers so you can sign who you want and make changes next yeear, like aquiring a real running back.  I love Shanny but to say we cant question his judgement on a RB is ridiculous we can questions it because right now things look suspect and they have for a while. what we should do trust his judgement. but we can and will question it.</p>
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		<title>By: No Limit Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Limit Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Najeh goes.  Shanny stayed away simply do to his history of being injury prone.  I think it&#039; s a good pick for us.  If their is any position that Shanny can not be questioned about it&#039;s the backs.  Hopefully this kid can learn the sheme enough to produce yards, even if it is in small chunks.  Cutler is back on top and is going to be the gunslinger he is supposed to be .  If Shanny can put somebody in to offset the pass and create a threat for some long rush situations, this will open the pass up more.  I think you keep hillis in for the short yard situations, but use this guy until you can get some healthy legs back in.  He is definetly no slouch.  He posted decent numbers for his college years, yeah he hasn&#039;t had two many N.F.L. starts but now is his chance to shine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Najeh goes.  Shanny stayed away simply do to his history of being injury prone.  I think it&#8217; s a good pick for us.  If their is any position that Shanny can not be questioned about it&#8217;s the backs.  Hopefully this kid can learn the sheme enough to produce yards, even if it is in small chunks.  Cutler is back on top and is going to be the gunslinger he is supposed to be .  If Shanny can put somebody in to offset the pass and create a threat for some long rush situations, this will open the pass up more.  I think you keep hillis in for the short yard situations, but use this guy until you can get some healthy legs back in.  He is definetly no slouch.  He posted decent numbers for his college years, yeah he hasn&#8217;t had two many N.F.L. starts but now is his chance to shine!</p>
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		<title>By: broncosfrance</title>
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		<dc:creator>broncosfrance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no matter who our running back is , the OL has to open up holes !!!</description>
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		<title>By: 2champ4pickSIX</title>
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		<dc:creator>2champ4pickSIX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quentin Griffin was good but it would never happen. He got hot headed and wanted to much in a contract, it was the system that made him great with the line in front of him, not really him. Only stellar feature he had that helped him excel was being 5 ft. nothing 100 nothing, and the defense couldn&#039;t see him behind our linemen!
Tatum Bell was suspended that may have been over now, but again we traded him to Detroit for Bly, and we wouldn&#039;t bring him back for the same reasons we traded him, HE WANTED A BIG CONTRACT! But wasn&#039;t worth what he wanted.
Mike Andersen is still suspended for substance abuse policy, 3rd or 4th time offense, so it&#039;s a full season this time.
Mike Bell I said it before was stricken with fumblias! He averaged 2 a game for a 3 game stretch! You guys hated Hall for 1 game, and want him back? HA!
Ron Dayne was a hard runner, but you don&#039;t sign a 1 year loan on a car with 400,000 miles on it do ya??? EXACTLY!
Najeh Davenport would have been a good pick up guys, but wouldn&#039;t have been a stellar performance, and like TDforreal said, we have plenty of good horses in the stable for next year. So I add, why? WHY SIGN A BIG NAME GUY TO FILL IN FOR A YEAR, WASTE GOOD CAP MONEY WHEN NEXT YEAR HE PROBABLY WON&#039;T EVEN BE THE STARTER?
Face it we all knew we weren&#039;t going to get a bigger named guy like that, it just isn&#039;t the smart move! You get what you need to make it where you want to be REALISTICALLY! Then you add to your team in the offseason via draft and F.A. Signing Davenport to a contract no matter how many years would have been pricy, and that takes away from helping out our D that you all hate so much!
07elway I laughed when you said ATV got run over, just pictured a 4-wheeler getting squished by BIGFOOT or something! lol
Anyway, our backs will be healthy next year, lets just wait and see what this guy can do, he performed well in college, doesn&#039;t seem like he was given a chance in the pros yet! Should be fresh, I can see why he wasn&#039;t given a chance though, I mean at Carolina he was behind what, Foster, Williams and whoever else for those years? At Baltimore he would of been behind McGahee and Mike Andersen before suspended and Jamal Lewis! GIVE HIM A SHOT!
He won&#039;t get a ton of carries, but lets hope he catches well out of the backfield, and doesn&#039;t fumble!
Enough about another top notch DB, I mean again goes back to finances, no team can really afford to pay 3 perrenial pro bowl corners when you will only use 2 of them the majority of the game! Do the math guys, you can&#039;t afford every body!
07elway I suggest you go read Coop&#039;s blog &quot;Turnovers Hurt, No Magic Against Jags&quot;
Keep the faith fans, we got a week to be ready for the burner turner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quentin Griffin was good but it would never happen. He got hot headed and wanted to much in a contract, it was the system that made him great with the line in front of him, not really him. Only stellar feature he had that helped him excel was being 5 ft. nothing 100 nothing, and the defense couldn&#8217;t see him behind our linemen!<br />
Tatum Bell was suspended that may have been over now, but again we traded him to Detroit for Bly, and we wouldn&#8217;t bring him back for the same reasons we traded him, HE WANTED A BIG CONTRACT! But wasn&#8217;t worth what he wanted.<br />
Mike Andersen is still suspended for substance abuse policy, 3rd or 4th time offense, so it&#8217;s a full season this time.<br />
Mike Bell I said it before was stricken with fumblias! He averaged 2 a game for a 3 game stretch! You guys hated Hall for 1 game, and want him back? HA!<br />
Ron Dayne was a hard runner, but you don&#8217;t sign a 1 year loan on a car with 400,000 miles on it do ya??? EXACTLY!<br />
Najeh Davenport would have been a good pick up guys, but wouldn&#8217;t have been a stellar performance, and like TDforreal said, we have plenty of good horses in the stable for next year. So I add, why? WHY SIGN A BIG NAME GUY TO FILL IN FOR A YEAR, WASTE GOOD CAP MONEY WHEN NEXT YEAR HE PROBABLY WON&#8217;T EVEN BE THE STARTER?<br />
Face it we all knew we weren&#8217;t going to get a bigger named guy like that, it just isn&#8217;t the smart move! You get what you need to make it where you want to be REALISTICALLY! Then you add to your team in the offseason via draft and F.A. Signing Davenport to a contract no matter how many years would have been pricy, and that takes away from helping out our D that you all hate so much!<br />
07elway I laughed when you said ATV got run over, just pictured a 4-wheeler getting squished by BIGFOOT or something! lol<br />
Anyway, our backs will be healthy next year, lets just wait and see what this guy can do, he performed well in college, doesn&#8217;t seem like he was given a chance in the pros yet! Should be fresh, I can see why he wasn&#8217;t given a chance though, I mean at Carolina he was behind what, Foster, Williams and whoever else for those years? At Baltimore he would of been behind McGahee and Mike Andersen before suspended and Jamal Lewis! GIVE HIM A SHOT!<br />
He won&#8217;t get a ton of carries, but lets hope he catches well out of the backfield, and doesn&#8217;t fumble!<br />
Enough about another top notch DB, I mean again goes back to finances, no team can really afford to pay 3 perrenial pro bowl corners when you will only use 2 of them the majority of the game! Do the math guys, you can&#8217;t afford every body!<br />
07elway I suggest you go read Coop&#8217;s blog &#8220;Turnovers Hurt, No Magic Against Jags&#8221;<br />
Keep the faith fans, we got a week to be ready for the burner turner!</p>
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		<title>By: scottiebronco</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottiebronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really think we need a quick fix for now, someone who knows the system and can produce, like quin Griffen, t bell, anderson of even ron dayne. Q and T are the best option because they are the last RB&#039;s Shanny has done anything with. since then we&#039;ve had a gutless drug&#039;o, and some injury prone nobodies. Get Q! he was a stud in college and got stuck behind Clinton P. he was adrian peterson before adrian peterson. get HIM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really think we need a quick fix for now, someone who knows the system and can produce, like quin Griffen, t bell, anderson of even ron dayne. Q and T are the best option because they are the last RB&#8217;s Shanny has done anything with. since then we&#8217;ve had a gutless drug&#8217;o, and some injury prone nobodies. Get Q! he was a stud in college and got stuck behind Clinton P. he was adrian peterson before adrian peterson. get HIM!</p>
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		<title>By: tdforeal</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdforeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love how people talk..you would think Denver is 0-8 not 5-4. Have some faith and cheer them on, they don&#039;t need help from &#039;god&#039; they just need solid 60 minute efforts. Give them some credit people stop acting like they are the lions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how people talk..you would think Denver is 0-8 not 5-4. Have some faith and cheer them on, they don&#8217;t need help from &#8216;god&#8217; they just need solid 60 minute efforts. Give them some credit people stop acting like they are the lions</p>
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