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Day 20: A.M. Blog

August 19th, 2009 - 12:12pm by Chris Gentilviso

Clear skies returned to Dove Valley during Wednesday morning’s practice session. Approaching 72 hours until Saturday’s kickoff at Seattle, the Broncos introduced a new scout team, opened up their playbook, and kept the speakers going with plenty of music.

Here are some quick hits from the two-hour session:

ROLL CALL: On defense, Champ Bailey, Brian Dawkins and Jack Williams missed the morning session. Not practicing on offense were running backs Knowshon Moreno and Correll Buckhalter, wide receivers Brandon Stokley and Brandon Lloyd, and guard/center Ben Hamilton.

POSITIONING: With Bailey and Dawkins sitting out practice, Alphonso Smith and Darcel McBath saw most of the reps with the first team defense. Kenny Peterson, Ronald Fields and Ryan McBean manned the line, while Mario Haggan, Andra Davis, D.J. Williams and Elvis Dumervil were at linebacker.

  • With Stokley and Lloyd out, the offense sported plenty of two-tight end sets. Daniel Graham and Tony Scheffler shifted along the line, while Chad Jackson, Jabar Gaffney, and Eddie Royal were the primary wide receivers. Brandon Marshall saw time with both the second team and the scout team.
  • With Hamilton missing the session, rookie Seth Olsen squeezed into the first team line at left guard. Olsen has also seen action at that spot next to Hamilton, when Casey Wiegmann sat out a few sessions at center over the course of camp.
  • In his second day of practice with the team, Le Kevin Smith demonstrated the versatility Head Coach Josh McDaniels spoke of on Monday. He lined up at right end alongside Nic Clemons and Chris Baker with the second-team defense. In nickel packages, he worked the interior in four-lineman fronts, next to either Baker or Fields.
  • The No. 1 kickoff return team this morning consisted of Haggan, McBath, Peterson, Josh Barrett, David Bruton, Richard Quinn, Darrell Reid, Kory Lichtensteiger, Peyton Hillis and Spencer Larsen. Rotating on returns were Eddie Royal, Kenny McKinley and Smith on one series, with Matthew Willis and Nate Swift rotating on the other set.
  • DRILLS: With Buckhalter and Moreno not practicing, LaMont Jordan and Darius Walker got extra reps, working with the quarterbacks on inside handoffs, draw plays and screen passes.

  • The tight ends and outside linebackers went full speed in 1-on-1 blocking drills. Quinn drew praise from Head Coach Josh McDaniels for sticking Robert Ayers on his rush. Dumervil got a pat on the back from linebackers coach Don Martindale for his play against Tony Scheffler. “There you go, E! There you go. Way to get him up on his kickstand.”
  • Defensive line coach Wayne Nunnely worked with his unit on protecting their legs. Each defensive lineman went up against a teammate posing as an offensive lineman. While battling for position, a third teammate rolled a medicine ball at their feet. Once they saw it, they poked that ball away to prevent their legs from being taken out.
  • PLAYMAKERS: Lee Robinson made his presence felt both in the backfield and on pass coverage. In one set of 11-on-11s, he blitzed from his inside linebacker spot, driving Marcus Thomas to the ground. Two plays later, Robinson was defending Marshall, and stepped in to pick off the Tom Brandstater pass for a touchdown. Marshall did everything he could to jar the ball loose, but Robinson was still able to march into the end zone

  • Joshua Bell was also active on the second-team unit, tipping a pass to Vernon Fox for an interception. Bell was close to having a pick of his own, but dropped the easy offering. He kept his spirits up, and dropped to do 10 push ups – following the lead of Dawkins who set that rule by example early on in training camp.
  • Kyle Orton and the rest of the offense used the final period of 11-on-11s to open up the playbook. Orton executed a flea flicker with Jordan, finding a crossing Chad Jackson for a 15-yard gain. Two plays later, Orton handed off to Jabar Gaffney, who threw back across the field to Orton. Toeing the original line of scrimmage, Orton hit a streaking Jordan for a 15-yard gain along the left sideline.
  • QUICK HITS: McDaniels didn’t hesitate to instill some discipline in his defense. After having to blow the whistle on two plays for poor lineup at the line of scrimmage, McDaniels made all 32 members of his defense run a lap around the practice field.

  • The scout team jerseys were back out at practice on Wednesday. Several Broncos posed as Seahawks, including Lofa Tatupu and Brandon Mebane on defense, and Nate Burleson and Deion Branch on offense. The Julius Jones jersey was used in both offense and kickoff return situations.
  • After practice, Royal was working on one-handed catches, alternating between his left and his right depending on where the ball was headed.
  • DAILY JUKEBOX: There was plenty of music during Wednesday morning’s session, from stretches through the final set of 11-on-11 drills. Here’s this morning’s playlist:

  • Nelly – “Air Force Ones”
  • Green Day – “Holiday”
  • Jay Z & Linkin Park – “Numb/Encore”
  • KC & The Sunshine Band – “Get Down Tonight”
  • Nelly – “Hot in Herre”
  • Das Efx – “They Want Efx”
  • Damian Marley – “Welcome to Jamrock”
  • Survivor – “Eye of the Tiger”
  • Ozzy Osbourne – “Crazy Train”
  • Metallica – “Enter Sandman”
  • Here are some more shots from the morning session.

    -Chris Gentilviso, DenverBroncos.com

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    180 Responses to “Day 20: A.M. Blog”

    1. CARAMELLOO says:

      Longgggggggggggggg story! I’ll have to tell that to ya one day. One reason is bc of my complexion. Hahaha

    2. 07elway says:

      Hey football stud!! Somehow I managed to get along without your presence, don’t know how I did it but I did. haha

      And 387, why should any of us lay off of Marshall?? Yeah so maybe he deserves a raise but you don’t go and beg for it like he has been. None of know the REAL story and probably never will but it’s his attitude and behavior that cause Dave, myself and other people to be so down on him. He would rather play for the money than for the game. That’s all he cares about is the money. He wants nothing more than money money money. Then you have his off field troubles… that’s a whole new ball game. Marshall is packed full of talent but he’s not all a flowers & candy. He’s got issues that have become distractions for the rest of the team but he doesn’t care. He just creates more drama in one situation.

    3. Ruga_Rell75 says:

      i havent agreed with most of the stuff marsh has done….but i have to side with him on this latest issue…why would the team tell everyone to say they arent happy for the guy….

    4. Torain ATV fan says:

      What happened to my comment. I layed it on 387, and it got deleted.

      Lay off Marshall, bull. Nice to see you judge a player for what he does on the field and not what he is as a man. Broncos have stood by him through 13 police reports and he feels the broncos owe him. Bull. He owes them for them putting up with his antics. The reason he is underpaid, his own doing, he was classified as a problem child in college, so he dropped from 1st round talent, to a fourth rounder. But he nor his agent will tell u that.

    5. whitebronco#1 says:

      Le Kevin + NE 7th round pick in 2010, for our 5th round pick 2010.

    6. Torain ATV fan says:

      hello elway.

      OGBRONCO- wuz up?

      DD no problem.

    7. Torain ATV fan says:

      Plus all those 13 reports were not from the same girl (as you call her gold digger). His last report was with him fighting with his fiancee in front of police. No charges filed, because neither would press charges.

    8. Torain ATV fan says:

      Why should we lay off somebody who does not want to be here?

    9. broncofan96 says:

      agreed also why take the risk right now for all we know he is going to go off next week get suspended and were out a bunch of money I say let him play if he shows he grew up then give him the money.

    10. Torain ATV fan says:

      Maybe they were told to say that, so it does not seem they are gloating. domestic violence is a serious issue and fans can get very angry over something like that. who knows, he could be right about that. But why doesnt he say i would like to thank the broncos for allowing me to leave camp early,go see my college boys practice, go to my court hearing, miss a pre season game, without fining me. They really stood by me. Its the oh what have you done for me lately with him.

    11. Marshallman-15 says:

      I know this is extremely random, but i havent really been able to answer to my own post ON THE FIRST PAGE, but i did kind of exaggerate scores because of our offense last year and we have kind of switched stats on the sides of the ball, but i think we COULD go 6-0 in our division because before the injury bug hits halfway through the season, we’re usually real good. No DJ? No Champ? we hit a bad streak last year. Like BYU. anyway, so what i’m saying is, if we don’t get drastic injuries like last year, we might be able to go 6-0. Defense wins championships. look at the ravens offense. anyway, oakland and kansas city might be more threating than san diego (not by record, but divisionally) KC lost gonzalez and expect to replace him by cassel? no.

      anyway, if you can fit all of this in your head, then you may see my point

    12. 07elway says:

      I agree, the PR guy was wrong about what they said. There’s no reason why the other guys on the team can’t be happy for Marshall about the acquittal publicly but there are more things in addition to that, that cause me to not let him have a free pass. He can’t seem to stay out of trouble off the field and like I’ve said a gazillion times before its a distraction. We don’t need distractions.

      Hey Torain… VERY well said posts. He is the kind of guy that feels the team owes him for his own actions. He needs to grow up, be a man and take responsibility for his own actions. Those are HIS problems NOT the teams problems. He should be on his knees thanking management through the years for not shipping him off to Timbuktu for acting up like he has been. There’s no excuse for what trouble he’s caused. Seriously, if I were the one in charge there’s no way on God’s green earth I’d put up with his off field issues NO matter how great of a talent he is on the field or how great of an asset he is to this team. I wouldn’t put up with it, period. He’s lucky, very very very lucky he still has a job. He owes the team, not the other way around.

    13. Dynamicdave says:

      Atwater4HOF, it’s all good. Like you and I both said, sometimes when something is typed, it sounds harsher then it’s meant. We’re good.

      CARAMELLOO, yes I’m on MySpace. I don’t use it very often. I mainly got on there because a couple of people hounded me to do it. Here is the link.
      http://www.myspace.com/484426725

    14. SBXXXII..Iwzthr! says:

      Oh, BLAH! I’m getting so tired of hearing about Marshall. Everywhere you go all the stories are about BM and trust issues, and this and that. Geez, get over yourself, Marshall. So they didn’t want players to really comment, so what!!! That now qualifies on whether or not you should trust an organazation?! Puhlease. If you’re so behind in the playbook and probably won’t play this weekend because you’re behind, then shut your mouth and just work. Quit running to any microphone they’ll shove in your face!

    15. Torain ATV fan says:

      Agreed 07. How was ur trip?

    16. TruBroncFan07 says:

      They need to pay Marshall. We don’t need to loose two young and up and coming players in the same year.

    17. Torain ATV fan says:

      SBXXXII,

      I wish i was chad johnson so i can tell Brandon, “Child Please”.

    18. 07elway says:

      My trip was great Torain. Went camping, caught a fishy, went up to Estes Park, then down to Denver and got to go to a TC practice. Had a blast.

    19. broncofan96 says:

      They will as soon as he shuts up and plays

    20. Torain ATV fan says:

      Why should they pay marshall? He cant leave rthis year, unless he decides to loose a year of elgibility towards FA, and decides he wants no income this year. Marshall does not hold the cards, the broncos do. Plus they can always franchise him next year if he shows he is doing right for once.

    21. Torain ATV fan says:

      Also with no CBA agreement Marshall becomes a restricted free agent for 2 years, which means he cant leave if we match the contract he is offered + 10%.

    22. SBXXXII..Iwzthr! says:

      Torain ATV….I needed that laugh!

    23. Torain ATV fan says:

      Glad too hear you enjoyed yourself 07.

    24. Torain ATV fan says:

      Glad I can help SB.

    25. Torain ATV fan says:

      Well guys im out, talk too you guys in a while.

    26. 2champ4pickSIX says:

      Yeah we can always franchise him.
      I think that contracts deserved to be re-done BEFORE they expire WHEN:
      1. The player out-performs their paygrade.
      a. They have NO off field issues
      b. No ongoing or curren issues (this includes staff, public relations, ex’s, fiances, gold diggers, night club dancers, law enforcement, agents, coaches, quarterbacks, players, or players belongings, or women on the side.)
      “like the numerous issues from numerous players, i.e.Tatum Bell, Pacman Jones, T.O., sorry but also a McNair”????
      2. The player is a good influence in the media, press, locker room, interviews, society, community.
      a. The player is a leader.
      3. The player does not hold out.

      Those are my biggest issues. With that I think that we should have him play through his current contract, through the season if he rights all these wrong courses of his ship. Then we re-negotiate.
      If he does not, we try to put those clauses in his contract if we want to keep him. We try a sign and trade, or we franchise tag him then trade him! One thing I am not worried about losing him, is due to before Moss and Welker, name 3 good WR’s that were top tier notch the pats had?!
      Yet they still did good, competed, won, yes they were better with Moss and Welker, but they are not manditory for the offense!
      Enough about Marsha Marsha Marsha though……
      Anyone care to hear how I ripped into a pats fan dissing us on nfl.com’s article on the trade for Le Kevin???? LOL
      Stay thirsty my friends.
      Football babe, always good to hear. Even though I know you do more than hold your own!

    27. SC_Socnorb says:

      Bmarsh or maybe the media of bmarsh is beginning to tick me off. You don’t know the playbook, give us back the 2.2 mil we are paying you, your not doing your job. Also I don’t know how many females “trust” BMarsh not to hit them.

    28. PhotoHoundAK says:

      I’ll say it again: the Broncos would be crazy to let Marshall go. Of course, it was crazy to let Cutler go, so it is definitely possible… Marshall is one of the better receivers in the league, and has the potential to dominate the game like Arizona’s Fitzgerald. He has clearly outplayed his contract, and deserves a raise. If he doesn’t get it, he will indeed be a distraction, and Denver will have no chance to re-sign him when his contract is up. And the line of teams trying to sign him will undoubtedly be long. Yes he clearly has some character problems, but so do 75% of the other players out there. Think about this: Marshall led the league in dropped passes, and STILL made the Pro Bowl… And if the Broncos don’t re-sign him now, the further the season progresses the less likely the odds are that they will be able to, as he certainly will become more and more upset due to Orton not being able to get him the ball. The leading receiver on the team will be Buckhalter or Moreno, as Orton is the king of the check-down pass. And that style of play will result in an abundance of three-and-outs, just as it did in Chicago, and the somewhat suspect defense will be drug up and down the field, over and over and over… Anyway, once Orton is undoubtedly demoted, the Broncos will be able to utilize Marshall to his fullest potential, which will subsequently result in more wins. Which is what Bronco fans really want, right?

    29. SC_Socnorb says:

      Lets talk about all the good people we have on our team like hillis and royal and our revamped dline instead of bmars

    30. 2champ4pickSIX says:

      hmmmmm how about my 2 cents on Favre?
      He just does not like practicing, training camp, or anything but a game against another team!!!
      Anyone else notice he holds out until he can just get into a game type situation? I’m retired, “oh wait its preseason, I’ll come play!”
      How long will teams let this keep up? lol

    31. Dynamicdave says:

      I was gone for dinner, but wow, I missed a lot, ha, ha.

      387, I am down on BMarsh because, as my earlier post said, he brought much of this on himself. As far as his incidents with Watley, he had 13 prior incidents which suggest a serious pattern. Do I think he was responsible for all of them? Absolutely not, but I’m sure he wasn’t innocent of all of them, either. He needs to grow up. His antics with the TV and hurting his arm was somewhat “questionable” as well. He shows a pattern. He is injured and could have been at OTA’s learning the playbook and attending meetings, but he chose not to. As for the “trust” issues (which goes both ways, Brandon), he said that towards the whole staff, not just the jr. PR guy. That guy (the PR guy) should be fired for what he did. I don’t support everything the staff has done during the changing of the guard, but I don’t blame them for Brandon’s situation with his off-field activities. That’s all on Brandon. He is a man and needs to conduct himself with dignity and good moral behaviour. He is a high profile person and is looked at as a role model for kids who aspire to be like him. I hope they don’t try to be like him at this point in his life. Too much room for improvement and he has too many issues going on. Like 07Elway said, too much drama. He can get through this and be a productive member of the Denver Broncos and society, but it starts with himself. He says he is behind in the playbook? Who’s fault is that? Don’t trust the staff? I can understand his hesitancy with the medical staff who made a bad call about his hip, but he still could have showed for OTA’s and had a local doctor follow up on his hip. I will say, the media is eating this stuff up and running with it (dirty laundry) and we as fans, are forced to read what we can, believe what we’re given (or not believe, of course), and state our opinion of the matter with limited information. That’s why these blogs are so fun. We work with little info and lots of hear-say (like the Favre story of being retired/doors are closed/doors are open again) and are forced to form an opinion off of the limited information. Only in America, ha, ha. I also enjoy debating and I judge people by what a person does and how he defines himself by personal experience. I’m retired Special Forces, retired martial arts instructor. I’ve also volunteered 3 years of my time to teach martial arts to kids involved in gangs and drugs, broken homes, etc. for the OJJDP program. I try to be the best I can be, as a human being and a role model. Brandon needs to do the same. Do I want him to remain a Bronco? Absolutely. But he needs to show he deserves the money by way of action. Like they say in Missouri, “show me.”

    32. broncofan96 says:

      I thought the receiver in cleveland Edwards led the league in drops last year.

    33. Dynamicdave says:

      2champ4pickSIX, ha, ha, so true. How long will teams continue, you ask? About as long as they still have people like Childress making those decisions, ha, ha.

    34. blum says:

      I think marsha should just shut up and play or leave practice for good
      either way would be fine with me. because I’m tired of his crap. The front office should slap the franchise tag on him so if anybody wants him
      next year they will have to pay for him.

    35. 2champ4pickSIX says:

      PhotohoundAk do you realize what cards we have with the Marshall situation?
      Like Torain said with no CBA agreement he becomes a RESTRICTED FREE AGENT.
      That means no matter what offer he gets from another team after the season, IF WE MATCH IT +10% HE HAS TO STAY!

      There is also the ace in the hole with the 1 ALLOTTED FRANCHISE TAG EACH YEAR! We place that on him and let him sign else where and pick up TWO 1st ROUND DRAFT PICKS! That’s a good return on investment if you ask me….. 4th rounder = TWO 1st ROUNDERS??? Albet Einstein would so confused!!!
      Plus like 07elway said, he is just interested in the money money money! That means if we give him his big contract, just like Peppers was with the Panthers, he will be happy once again! Money is all he wants, and thinks he needs right now. Doesn’t matter how he gets it, or from what team he gets it, as long as the check is written and doesn’t bounce!
      Take Moss for example, went to Oakland for the money! Meaning anywhere that will pay #15 the most, he will sign!
      We do NOT have to re-sign or re-negotiate with him now. Not until we want to!

    36. FTR says:

      Posted on wrong Date Blog so I will post again. Sorry!
      DD
      If you get that spot on the radio you must post the on line URL for the station here so we all can give a listen. I look forward to what you write for the Denver Broncos Fan Huddle! I am sure it will be good information written from the fans prospective.
      BM I think is coming to terms with his position on the team and will play 100% and let things work themselves out. As a fan I would hope he will play for his team and the fans that have supported him through his off field problems. Everyone here I would hope will continue to support him as long as he puts on orange and blue on and off the field. We are after all the Bronco Nation! Ohh yea if you need me to come up and give color commentary next to you on the show let me know–Ha
      FTR

    37. dlmyers says:

      You bloggers except 07elway and BB19 and OG.. few others, are WAY to negative for me to blog.
      Maybe tomorrow you will be better.

    38. Dynamicdave says:

      Ha, ha, Paul, yeah, I bet you would. maybe they could ask you what FTR stands for? Can you say “censorship”, ha, ha. He is with one AM radio station now but the station will be changing soon. I’ll keep you posted when and if it happens. Thanks.

      2champ4pickSIX, well said. Brandon isn’t going anywhere. Maybe he feels if he cries/complains/voices his unhappiness enough, they will let him go like they did Jay? Just a thought.

    39. Dynamicdave says:

      Don’t leave Dan, come back to the light….. Follow the light….

    40. knowshon27 says:

      At least it won’t become another YOU know who (cutler) drama. I hope Marshall stays he’s a great player and well help us a lot in the future.

    41. 2champ4pickSIX says:

      Exactly what I think DD!
      I mean you don’t get stared down that much by your qb, catch 18 balls in one game, 100+ in a few season, and not get a phone call with a little elbow nudge……. hey just complain and voice negativity in the media, then deny it, and it’ll happen! “that’s what I did” from him.
      Anyway I’m off to play some basketball for a few hours! bruised hip and all…..
      I don’t even get paid, wonder why #15 couldn’t do that?!
      Stay thirsty my friends!

      P.S. Oh I’m starting a new thing, think it may catch on…… When I’m unhappy with a player on THE TEAM, I’m no longer going to use his name until he makes me happy. So, go save some whales or something #15!!!! Anyone with me?

    42. NY_BroncoMan says:

      This B Marsh stuff is starting to get to me. I understand you guys bashing him BUT from what i saw he his attitude was shifting to very positive once he got into camp and now this A$$hole PR thing really screwed it up. I mean come on man…that’s absolutely ridiculous!! Why would you even think of telling the team to not be happy and excited for him when he legally got cleared of his charges. the team is supposed to be family…why would they not be happy for him. I understand his disappointment and i think McDaniel’s as our LEADER should personally apologize and make sure he felt SUPPORTED about the outcome and encouraged that things are moving forward on a positive note. I dont care how many times B Marsh messed up his team/ family should support him!!! Case closed. You dont have to give him the contract yet but support should be a given.

      What do you think??

    43. 2champ4pickSIX says:

      None of us agree with the PR guy either NY_BroncoMan.
      As for McDenver giving an apology personally, would help, they already announced a public apology and stuff. I think the best way to settle it is to fire the JR PR guy like DynamicDave said.
      I wouldn’t say we are bashing #15, just that we are as unhappy with the way he handled a little more adversity and a poor situation from a FREAKING JUNIOR PR GUY, as we are with the FREAKING JUNIOR PR GUY!
      I think #15 trusts Cay Jutler more than he does McDenver so an apology from him would do the same good it did for Cutler!
      Anyway I’m out for a few hours!

    44. PhotoHoundAK says:

      You people know nothing about Marshall’s motives. Put yourself in his place; wouldn’t you want to be paid a fair wage for your work? He’s one of the top performers in his position group, yet he’s paid near the bottom. He’s not even the close to being the top-paid receiver on the same team. Think about how you would feel. You work more, work better, yet get paid less. Not a very good feeling, eh?

    45. Torain ATV fan says:

      its his fault he is underpaid. should of stayed out of trouble in college and he would have been a 1st rounder. iits his fault, u just dont want to see that. rookie contract are slotted were u r drafted. he was drafted late, because he could not stay out of trouble even then.

    46. Torain ATV fan says:

      I never realized how many man-crushes exists. LOL. I love you man.

    47. Dynamicdave says:

      Ak, as ATV said, Marshall is not in a situation like any other WR. He had off field problems that are 1 incident away from a long suggestion. Denver can’t, nor shouldn’t give away money and long term contracts, blindly. There needs to be some time (at least half of the season) gone by with no incidents. Should he play without set backs from injuries, setbacks from more domestic issues, etc., then give him a contract. But for the money he wants and for the money, at this juncture in his life, is not deserved. You can be as talented as you want but it means zip if you collect it when you’re suspended or injured. He needs to prove to the Broncos (and the fans). You want him to get his money when in fact, he can get into trouble again and Denver will have to foot the bill without the player. Let him prove he is a decent, changed person over the next couple of months. Then see where he stands and go from there. A jr. PR man opens his yap and Did the wrong thing The staff apologized for the PR mans actions and said he acted on his own, but Marshall goes to the media and spouts off that there are trust issues, again. Wrong move. He should have said something about how he doesn’t blame the organization for one mans actions. Even if he didn’t entirely believe it, it would make things easier and less drama. We all know what happens when a player goes to the press with criticism, it gets blown out of proportion.

    48. Dynamicdave says:

      Meant “suspension,” not “suggestion,” lol

    49. NY_BroncoMan says:

      I completely understand and agree with NOT giving him a contract YET. Give him incentive and let him know he’ll get or give him a contract based on performance etc. They know what they’re doing on the contract thing. I’m not sweatin that

      All i’m saying is that if the Broncos want B Marsh to stay they need to make the effort to support him and make him feel that way. No team wins the superbowl divided and with animosity and resentment brewing. Its gotta be a family atmosphere with everyone pulling for each other.

    50. 07elway says:

      Goodness, one person creates a heap of drama in their own life and look at what it creates on this blog… haha more drama!! Cut it out #15!

      LOL Torain… I can see all the man crushes goin on in here. Too funny.

      Well of course I’ll go along with my football stud’s idea, plus I’m just tired of typing out #15′s name so much.

      And another way I see this… if we just give into what #15 wants, he’ll never learn from his mistakes. Yes, talent wise he deserves a raise but he goes about it all the wrong way, just like the ‘ol #6 did with his fiasco. #15 has to learn that he can’t always get what he wants. I always go by the saying “good things come to those who wait”. If he had a little patience and self control, he might just get an unexpected surprise. Meaning, who knows how much money he wants now as a raise. If he waits it out a bit with some patience and just focuses on his game instead of the green, he might get a higher raise than what he originally wanted. As of now his attitude & behavior is telling me he doesn’t deserve a raise period… that has to be earned. Its like respect, which he’s losing from me too. You have to GIVE respect first in order to GET it back. Its a 2 way street #15, get the picture??

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