The Broncos on Wednesday signed free-agent fullback Austin Sylvester.
Sylvester spent five weeks on the team’s practice squad in 2011, and was on the club’s active roster for two games — including its AFC Wild Card win against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The 6-foot-1, 255-pound fullback, originally signed as a college free agent from the University of Washington, didn’t appear in any games during his rookie campaign, which also included a two-week stint on Tampa Bay’s practice squad.
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OT, I totally get what you’re saying, and when I personally say he knows what he needs to do, I mean that which encompasses everything….from what he expects of himself, to what his coaches and the organization expect of him….from mechanics, to reading defenses, to accuracy, to pocket presence, to, well, EVERYTHING.
As I’ve said many times, it’s on his shoulders to succeed, or not, and there are still many things he had to improve upon to satisfy the powers that be. I can live with that, and know that he’ll do his best and take whatever measures necessary to be what he and his coaches want him to be. However, there’s no guarantee that he will do enough, learn enough, or be improved enough to satisfy those who need to be satisfied, so we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
Good luck cody-
Remember – Valor is stability, not of legs and arms, but of courage and the soul.
KK, Elway brought a lot of Standford fans to the Broncos as well. Only real difference between then and now is there was no Internet and social media early on to hash everything out……and this from a fan since almost the inception of the Broncos, who’s been through a lot more with this team than Tebow. But we wanted Tebow at Bama too, you know.
Personally, I think it’s great for the Broncos to get new fans, and players are what helps to get them, but I know not everyone has been especially accepting of Tebow fans, because some of them don’t seem to accept that he’s moved to a a higher level and is facing more difficult challenges. He is, and will always be the greatest college quarterback ever to them, and I respect their right to feel that way. As long as they’re respectful to the Broncos tradition, I don’t have a problem with it. But that’s just me.
That new owner of Jacksonville scares me. He has some deep pockets and has said that if he wants something, he isn’t afraid to go after it and get it.
As far as Tebow and his training/progression as a passer. He made the progression in college pretty well. I see no issue here making it. With the improvement he showed last season from his first start in the 5th game to the end of the season, he showed some great progress. I don’t think he is going to have any problem at all. I also believe he is doing just exactly what the staff and John Elway has told him to do so far this off season. I read or heard in one of the interviews of Fox or Elway that they told him to take off and get himself some time to heal before he starts and training this off season.
Elway also told him he was gong to work with him this off season, and I don’t think that is going to happen until after the draft at the earliest.
*Stanford……
Common mistake – quite a few people type out as “Standford”.
Beautiful campus, have a few relatives who graduated from there.
What about “strand”ford??
Tide – I hear ya buddy.. Trust me, I’m no hater, and want nothing more than to have Tebow come out and light it up, shutting up all his critics.. All I’m saying is that I’m open to anything that may happen, and that I support the team first, as I’m sure you do as well.
If I may setr my record straight here this morning with everybody. All of you know I live in Florida, and I have followed Tebow for many years, but, with that said, I have been a Bronco fan a lot longer than I have followed Tebow through his football career. I look at it like this…when a player comes to the NFL, he becomes a commodity. No more, no less. Just like if you go to New York City to the stock exchange or to Chicago Mercantile Exchange. Players are bought, sold and traded for whatever the market gets for them. That is why I have referred in previous post as “beef on the hoof” like a cattle market. When that athlete goes pro, then the time for favortism is over.
In EFX shoes, let the gentleman in Jacksonville offer me a 1st this year and next year, along with other picks as one of you put it, Tebow would be on the next plane to Jacksonville. Period!
http://nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-free-agents/
By no means an official list and does not take into account franchise tagging possibilities. With that said, to improve our secondary I think there are 2-3 guys we should be willing to drop money for.
Safety Michael Griffin
Cornerbacks Brandon Carr or Tracy Porter
If for some reason Brent Grimes slides out of Atlanta, he’d be the perfect fit.
Building through the draft is important but free agency can be helpful as well if we go with Quality over Quantity.
My comment wasn’t directed at anyone in particular………..and I agree that it’s great to have more broncos fans………..the more the merrier.
I was more referencing those that were blogging this season with blinders on who thought that TT could do no wrong and annointed him the king of denver. They seemed to be more about TT than the broncos as a whole.
Good one OT….lol!
Where is strand anyway… keep missing him when he’s on here.
Here is this from Woody Paige this morning.
Woody’s Mailbag: Maybe Tim Tebow doesn’t need so much “fixing”
Posted: 02/09/2012 01:00:00 AM MST
By Woody Paige
The Denver Post
Hi Woody, I recently read that Tom Brady’s personal coach, Tom Martinez, said that he could fix Tim Tebow’s mechanics, and that it would only take about two weeks. Do you know if Tebow is aware of this? If not, could you please tell him? Seems to me that Tim should be on the phone to Mr. Martinez yesterday.
–Scott Hanks, Salt Lake City
There are so many people who think they can “fix” Tebow. I actually tried to call Tom Martinez, the former coach at College of San Mateo (he followed Bill Walsh and John Madden), a couple of months ago, and couldn’t reach him because he was in dialysis. He has serious health problems and needs a kidney (as a result of diabetes, which is scary — I know, I’m a diabetic).
Martinez is a quarterback guru, and has been working with Brady annually since Brady was 13. Brady is trying to help him get a transplant, because Martinez has been given only a few months to live. Martinez supposedly worked with John Elway (although I haven’t documented that with John). Martinez did tell a radio station in Atlanta a couple of weeks ago that he could “fix” Tebow’s mechanics in two weeks. He called Tebow an “internal warrior” whose mechanics have been messed up along the way.
When I couldn’t reach Martinez, I called Zeke Bratkowski, Bart Starr’s backup in the Packers glory years, and talked to him for about an hour. He’s called me back a couple of times since asking me to put him in touch with Tebow because he wants to work with Tebow again. Bratkowski, also a “QB guru,” spent 2-3 weeks fulltime with Tebow after the Senior Bowl (when Tebow was characterized as a terrible quarterback) before Tebow was drafted, and reworked his mechanics. Bratkowski also worked with Phillip Rivers and Michael Vick before they were drafted. Bratkowski told me in our conversations that Timmy (people ask why I call him that; that’s his name and what he prefers, and that’s how he and his family refer to him) needs to stop thinking so much, and needs a few adjustments in his mechanics. He said, and I may have mentioned it here once before, that he had a drill in which he blind-folded Tebow and made him throw 20-yard out (sideline) patterns, and “he was the best student I ever had for that drill.”
Bratkowski and Martinez both think Tebow will be a great passing quarterback. Sean Salisbury, the former NFL quarterback who worked for ESPN for years, said (not to me, but to various others) during the Super Bowl week that he could “fix” Tim Tebow in two weeks and turn him into a “60 percent completion” quarterback. The quarterback Tebow is most often compared to is Steve Young (left-handed, a runner and a guy a lot of people said couldn’t play quarterback in the NFL). Young has been critical of Tebow at times, but said he would love to work with Tebow. I’m sure everybody would like to give it a try.
Now, then, John Fox told me in his office in a long, one-on-on conversation (mostly off the record) on the day Kyle Orton was traded that some of the issues Tebow has could not be changed during the course of the season, particularly when they were working on the game plan almost every day. He felt they needed a full off-season and training camp working with Tebow to correct flaws. That’s why I assume Elway said Tebow is the starting quarterback GOING INTO camp — and didn’t guarantee anything beyond that. They want to find out if Tebow can improve his footwork and his decision-making and his accuracy on various throws, and see if he will have more confidence throwing over the middle, and can improve throwing to his right.
I have now talked to at least a dozen ex- and current coaches (Dan Reeves and Jim Fassel and Bratkowski, a former long-time assistant, and Boyd Dowler, who played for the Packers and coached and scouted in the NFL for years and others off the record because they asked that their names not be used, but they are former quarterbacks), and not in any discussion did I know going in what they thought of Tebow, and I didn’t push them for positive responses about him, and I was stunned that every one of them thinks he will be a great NFL quarterback. I know that there are many others who think otherwise, but these are people I trust. Fox believes in Tebow. Elway believes in Tebow as a person and as a player, but is not totally convinced about him as a quarterback. I know that many of the veteran players who were unwilling to come forward when Orton was the quarterback believe in Tebow. They have said it directly to me even when I haven’t asked.
So I am amazed when I hear Denver media claim that players and coaches and Elway don’t believe Tebow will ever be a player. I’ve never had one player or coach or executive at Dove Valley tell me that on or off the record, and I actually talk to them. I had a three-hour conversation with someone who was very involved with the Broncos in the Josh McDaniels’ reign (of terror?) who told me they knew that some day Tebow would be a special quarterback, but that he needed development, and McDaniels didn’t want to throw him to the wolves with a lousy team. McDaniels told me over and over that Tebow would be the Broncos quarterback “sooner than people think,” and that he believed in him.
I want somebody in the Denver media to tell me on or off the record which player (other than Brandon Lloyd) thinks Tebow can’t play quarterback for the Broncos for years. He does need some “fixing” because, truth is, Urban Meyer at Florida thought his passing technique needed some fixing, but didn’t want to do it because the situation was going so well with the Gators.
Part of the problem is that maybe too many people have been trying to help “fix” Tebow. He’s probably gotten too much advice. There’s a lot of pressure on Adam Gase, more so than on coordinator Mike McCoy, to work as hard as possible to “fix” Tebow. Does that mean sending him to Martinez, if he’s healthy enough to work with Tebow, or back to Bratkowski for a few weeks? Does that mean bringing in Steve Young for a week or two to sit down with Tebow? Does that mean that John Elway should, after the draft and the free agent signing period, go out onto the field during minicamps and the rest of the time when Tebow is allowed to be at Dove Valley per the NFL collective bargaining agreement, and work with him on the footwork and technique and the mental aspects of the game? Does that mean that Gase spend the off-season studying films of the history of how Aaron Rodgers “fixed” his throwing techniques and footwork, or talking to quarterbacks who are left-handed or changed their own throwing motion after they came to the pros?
I think the Broncos should consider all those choices, and implement some. And Tebow, who has a personal trainer in town, should hire a personal quarterback “guru” to work with when he’s not at Dove Valley, maybe for two weeks. Why not sit down with Salisbury or Young or even Brady for a few days and ask questions and study tape with them. Jon Gruden really likes Tebow. Maybe Tebow should spend a little time with him. We (except some media types in Denver) know that Tebow is willing to work harder than everyone else and try to improve. His mistake last year, honestly, was he worked out every day with his older brother Robby, and maybe he should have gone off to work with one of the premier quarterback mentors around the country.
Here’s what also must happen: The Broncos need another top-flight running back and another wide receiver and tight end who can catch and help Tebow. I’ve been telling you people since he got here that Knowshon Moreno was a mistake in more ways than one. I’ve been saying that the Broncos have an average group of receivers. They need help in those areas. Tebow will improve if he has a Victor Cruz or a Rod Smith or a Steve Watson, or a Riley Odoms, or a Rob Gronkowski. Tebow will be helped if the Broncos sign a veteran quarterback who wants to help him, not one who is interested only in himself. You know who I’m talking about. Tebow will be helped if the Broncos continue to develop an offense that uses his abilities in the best way. McCoy, et al., did a great job of adjusting on the fly last year, but they weren’t able to throw out the entire playbook and start over in the middle of the season. And just maybe the Broncos should bring in a couple of Tebow’s biggest critics and say, “OK, look at him, and show us what is so wrong with him.”
You’ve got a major investment in this young man. The Broncos should do everything they can to get as much as they can out of him. And if, at the end of next year, he can’t be “fixed,” they can go in another direction. Guess what? It will all get figured out, because Tebow will be a great quarterback.
Killerkod,
I apologize if I made my comments above sound like I was directing anything toward anyone. I was not. Just stating for common knowledge to everyone my position on Tebow, or any player for that matter, being on this team and rooting for the player instead of the team.
no worries weatherman………s’all good! I hear ya bro.
And thanks for the arcticle from woody. Interesting read!
Woody Paige gives EFX a “B” for their first season. Here is the link to his column. He is to long winded with his answers.
http://www.denverpost.com/woodysmailbag/ci_19922048?source=rss
In the Paige article that Seweathermam posted (thanks!), he says,
“Tebow will be helped if the Broncos sign a veteran quarterback who wants to help him, not one who is interested only in himself. You know who I’m talking about.”
Is woody referring to Orton not wanting to help Tebow or is he saying that he knows of a QB who wants to come to Denver and work with Tebow. I’m assuming orton but wasn’t sure.
Sounds like he may be talking about a Colts QB that might be on the market in a couple of weeks. I doubt he is talking about Orton. Orton wouldn’t consider coming back here, especially as a back-up. He wouldn’t stay before as a back-up and we all saw how he acted toward Tebow, so no, I don’t see Orton being in any discussion for or about us at all.
Thanks Seweathermam. I’ve never ever heard of Manning as someone known for mentoring. I’d rather they sent Tebow off to Archie’s house this spring for a few months.
I agree. I don’t see Peyton going anyplace as a back-up either.
I think they have to be careful of something with TT mentioned in the article and that is not to get too many people talking at the same time. That certainly wouldn’t help him and would really hurt in the long run. Too many cooks always spoil the soup. Unfortunately, there is only so much that can be learned in a class room and playing QB takes a LOT of learning! Sometimes, the best way to learn is to go out and play, get your butt handed to you a few times and learn from it. Not the easiest way to learn but you never forget those lessons. I think that is where is is in his development as a QB. He certainly needs to improve on technique and fundamentals but a lot of it comes only from getting smacked around and doing it over and over. I am interested to see if he learns and retains that knowledge. He seemed to during this past season but the difficulty of the offense will ramp up significantly this year. I’m not sure we will know for completely where he is going as a QB for possibly a couple of years. One thing for sure, win, loose or draw, it will always be interesting!
I think the organization will cut its ties with NoShow Moreno pretty soon……..while he’s had flashes of being a great running back, his inability to get those tough couple yards on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down, fumbles, the fact that already in his young career he is injury prone, and now the DUI charge will prob be the last straw.
While I love McGahee and what his brings to the field, he is getting older and I don’t think he can carry the full load as the feature back.
Your thoughts?
If he can’t be the full time guy, who do we get to compliment him? Someone who bruises up the middle like he does, or someone with a little more speed to the outside like Moreno, when healthy and on his game. We really suffered with like zero screens to our backs to get them on the outside.
@ Tide: definitely gonna eat it
Bring us the BEEF, Im likeing micheal brockers DT out of LSU 6′ 6 306. I think we need big guys in the middle to stuff the run and knock down passes. One thing ive noticed is our Dline dont get their hands up in the lanes, we need taller guys to knock down passes.
But looking at John foxes record, the reason he dont like DTs is because he likes agressive pass rushers thats why I really think he will stock up on linebackers and Defensive Ends. Hes another Tom Coughlin the Giants like DEs also, they convert Ends to tackles and as you can see the Giants have a pretty aggressive pass rush.
I feel the same way. We should stock up on aggressive pass rushers but on the other hand big Beefy lineman can really force some off tackle running. DJ and Von can keep that contained. So either way you go there is a possibility of success. We have talent, its just molding it and putting it to a winning system.
Most of Tebow’s best moments as a passer have been in come from behind victories in the 4th quarter. Asking myself why , the only answer I can come up with is all he is concerned about under those conditions is making a play. Too much thinking going on the rest of the time. Too worried about trying to do everything right, everything the way his coaches are telling he should be doing it. An off season to learn and having a season under his belt should make a world of difference in his ability to play the position. Hopefully , whoever ends up giving him instruction makes sure he knows that what he may be trying to teach him just may not be the best method for TT. Anyone who has coach on any level surely knows what works for one person may not work for the next.
Moreno has been given every oppurtunity here to excell at his craft. I’ll he’ll be moving on but if not, I’ll be cheering for him.
Joe Mays, I wonder how the coaching staff evaluates his performance, good, bad or ugly. Guess we will have a good idea in the next few months.
Wide recievers, I think we have a pretty good group, people seem to forget just how young this group is when evaluating their performance. The only one I’m really a little on is Eddie Royal. He played so well his rookie season I expected big things from him. DT & Decker are hopefully only going to get better and I believe Willis’s numbers were better than Eddie’s.
JT is going to be a great pass catching TE, wait and see. The off season should really benefit him and many of our draft class of last year. It will be interesting to see what happens with that group.
Lastly, nice to read a professional article by Woody. When he’s not trying to entertain he’s pretty good reading.
Go Broncos!
I thought the same thing imready. He’s worried about not messing up, his mechanics, his reads, getting things lined up right and in the 4th as you said he’s just trying to “make plays.” That mentality is sort of what we want him to have only all the time. The old saying is “if you’re thinking you’re not playing.” Just needs to improve so that these things are just second nature to him. Hopefully that can happen.
I didn’t think Moreno was ever going to be “the guy” at least as a workhorse. That type of HB are pretty slim in the league nowadays. Almost everyone has a 2 HB if not more rotating in an out. I think Moreno’s career will be riddled with injury while incorporating flashes here and there.
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Do you guys remeber Ronnie Harmon?
Moreno = Harmon… 3rd down/screen specialist… I think we should keep him for the next two years of his Rookie deal and then be on our way…
I do agree with you guys (OT and Killer) Tim has to improve on reading defenses and footwork etc. I think he also needs to learn to read the short throws too not just the bombs down the field. There were so many times he overlooked someone wide open on a short pass and either threw it out of bounds or ran with the ball. I think much of that will come with experiance and repetition. As far as the trade goes it wouldn’t surprise me if Jacksonville offered their rookie QB from last years draft plus a couple more draft picks for Tim. I really don’t know what Fox, Elway and Bowlen think about Tim and if they truely believe he can become what they want but I guess we will all have to see what happens in FA and draft to answer that. I guess the only thing that is upsetting to me is when people say that Tim will NEVER improve or will NEVER become a franchise QB. How can anyone ever know?
You guys should really just let Tebow be Tebow for a couple months!!! You will drive yourselfs CRAZY over analyzing every aspect of every aspect of his game and in the end, bottom line is, that it is up to TT and his supporting cast as to how much he improves from this year to the next…
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Moreno will never be a workhorse back. He wasn’t in college and he isn’t now. That doesn’t mean he can’t be valuable to the team, just that he isn’t going to rush 30 times/game and survive for very long. He attempted less than 20 per game in college in his career so expecting more than that is unrealistic. Let him do what he does, disrupt and cause confusion on the defense. Use him outside, in motion, as a slot rcvr, on screens. At this point, he is worth keeping just to see how it turns out.
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I hope we keep Eddie Royal. He seems to be a good guy. Not sure about Moreno, he seemed to have good talent but can’t stay healthy. I also think the receivers can be good if they can learn not to drop balls that hit them in the numbers. I think the more they work together as a unit (Tebow and the receivers) the better they will be. I like how the locker room has turned into a family atmosphere because I think that is important. I believe Woody was talking about Orton because Orton was only thinking of himself and how to fluff up his numbers. There is so much positive energy in the team right now and our young group of players will only learn and get better. I can’t wait for the ride in 2012.
I think of TT can learn how to read defenses, and learn where the open man is, and take what the defense gives you hell be fine. If you take the short stuff for awhile, it will open the long passes up. Reading the Defense and making adjustments at the line is everything, thats why manning is so good. And as far as peyton goes, I dont think their will be alot of teams that want to hand the offense over to him, think about it he calls his own plays which could be better then Mcoy thow LOL.
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Hey Turtle, how are you today?
I’m good… Doing some remodeling in one of our Rentals… Been digging out old insulation and putting in new… Almost done with drywall in the first of 5 bedrooms… gonna be a long day…!
BT, if he is their best hope of immediate help, they have more than a few problems! Throws for a bazillion yards but doesn’t spark many wins. I wonder how much they think he is worth right now.
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Carolina hired Mike Shula for Newton….. Rodgers & Flynn had Tom Clements (who I have been name dropping all year), and Tebow has GASE ? Come on man… That is lame… Behind every good QB is a good coach… Gase has never laced it up in College… To be a great QB coach you have to have played the game… You need to know how getting hit by a 300 pound lineman effects your decisions….. A good coach will tell his QB (who is getting blasted)… Heck with your progressions, if the hot read isn’t open check down to your TE- runningback. (even though on most Fox pass plays there are no TE/RB running routes).. I hope Tebow goes against the company line and hires a QB coach like he did before the draft.. I believe he feels he’d be disrespecting coach GASE by doing that, ELway should give him the OK.. Unless….. ELway wants him to fail.. We did ditch our top two receivers last year & TE (gaffney, lloyd, and graham)… Tebow had a 300 yard passing game in his second start last year… Imagine if we would have kept those 3? oh, I better not…. Cause Orton would probably still be here….
Armadillo….where ya been?
Where’s the BEEF? LOL
I am watching week 1 Denver game tonight. Have to have my football fix somehow. Can’t wait to see the team’s passion when Orton was starting LOL.