Comments on: Through the Roster: Hamza Abdullah http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/ Sun, 19 May 2013 14:33:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: kosterb http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12203 kosterb Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:44:32 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12203 draft Kenny Phillips keep Hamza at strong and let him learn Phillips is a better replacement for Lynch draft Kenny Phillips keep Hamza at strong and let him learn Phillips is a better replacement for Lynch

]]> By: ncheel2 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12204 ncheel2 Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:55:01 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12204 I'm a Bronco 4 ever. So don't mistake my concerns with giving up on the team. I just feel that certain things will work, given what has taken place with other teams. Many folks blame players all the time, and refuse to look at coaching and ownership. The other day, Bowlen was asked about shanny's future hear, and he said that as long as shanny wants to be here he can. While players deal with the uncertainties, this team allows for leadership to be mediocre at best year after year. If you're always changing players, the team never gets good. Look at players who have left here, went elsewhere and be major contributors to success. The writers tell it as it is also, instead of playing patsy to the owner and coach, which is what many who blog here do- afraid to address poor coaching. WHile I was in Miami, that team had good leadership at one point, and they will be back also, because they refuse to accept losing from the top. Broncos has excellent players0 they just need to learn how to use the talents better. Humaza is good at FS-SS and should be used more on ST. Gold just needs to get mentally right. Fox is great at corner/nickle and could do some returns- he run a 4.35. I like ALexander also, because of how he moves down field and blocks well. charles I’m a Bronco 4 ever. So don’t mistake my concerns with giving up on the team. I just feel that certain things will work, given what has taken place with other teams. Many folks blame players all the time, and refuse to look at coaching and ownership. The other day, Bowlen was asked about shanny’s future hear, and he said that as long as shanny wants to be here he can. While players deal with the uncertainties, this team allows for leadership to be mediocre at best year after year. If you’re always changing players, the team never gets good. Look at players who have left here, went elsewhere and be major contributors to success.

The writers tell it as it is also, instead of playing patsy to the owner and coach, which is what many who blog here do- afraid to address poor coaching. WHile I was in Miami, that team had good leadership at one point, and they will be back also, because they refuse to accept losing from the top. Broncos has excellent players0 they just need to learn how to use the talents better. Humaza is good at FS-SS and should be used more on ST. Gold just needs to get mentally right. Fox is great at corner/nickle and could do some returns- he run a 4.35. I like ALexander also, because of how he moves down field and blocks well.

charles

]]> By: ncheel2 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12205 ncheel2 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:45:39 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12205 Getting rid of Javon is the easy way out. You motivate your players to play the game, and sometimes taking the hardline is how to do it. Along with that leaders have to be consistent with how they do business, which seemed to me very lacking from top-down. Again, draft will take on itself, and what I see with the team overall is that the utilization of players was not there. I think Marcus Griffin at Tennessee is a better fit because of competition in SEC, his numbers, character and off the field behavior. Cutler telegraphs too much as he locks on one player, and at best he's a long-term project before considered in the Peyton, Tom, or Bret box. I do see him getting better, but not top five yet, and he doesn't show any passion or leadership. I don't think quarterbacks should automatically be considered leaders anyway, as this is a deserved positon/title. Say what you want, Fox is a damn good corner and when playing CB or nickle, he's on point. What the team did last year was took the best man capable of playing in SS/FS roles because of injuries and placed him there, which he did well. He's best a CB, and the team allowed Paymah to have some playing time while Fox was holding down safety because of John's inability to cover down field. He's great with one-on one cover, can tackle and proved that by moving ahead of Paymah as a 3-97th pick and Paymah 3-77th pick. Also, no long balls thrown on Fox. I think there is some interest in Humza elsewhere also, so if the team is interested in keeping a good base they have, they better try to keep them. I also think with good coaching and really relating to players, this team is good to go. When coaches can't relate, players don't paly. You can't tell me that in last game of 2006, needing that game to make play-offs, that our players couldn't win that game. They didn't want to, since coaches had given up while 7-4 and inserting Jay and suspect calling in other games, as well as inconsistent use of players. I think the same happen this year, excellent players, good leading the team to compete weekly. 97-98 is over. This is now, dealing with players is different and requires better communication and motivation strategies with players. So while I'm not a "get-rid-of-shanny" person, some change in leading is needed just as some players. Shanny didn't take the team anywhere; the players did. Getting rid of Javon is the easy way out. You motivate your players to play the game, and sometimes taking the hardline is how to do it. Along with that leaders have to be consistent with how they do business, which seemed to me very lacking from top-down. Again, draft will take on itself, and what I see with the team overall is that the utilization of players was not there. I think Marcus Griffin at Tennessee is a better fit because of competition in SEC, his numbers, character and off the field behavior. Cutler telegraphs too much as he locks on one player, and at best he’s a long-term project before considered in the Peyton, Tom, or Bret box. I do see him getting better, but not top five yet, and he doesn’t show any passion or leadership. I don’t think quarterbacks should automatically be considered leaders anyway, as this is a deserved positon/title. Say what you want, Fox is a damn good corner and when playing CB or nickle, he’s on point. What the team did last year was took the best man capable of playing in SS/FS roles because of injuries and placed him there, which he did well. He’s best a CB, and the team allowed Paymah to have some playing time while Fox was holding down safety because of John’s inability to cover down field. He’s great with one-on one cover, can tackle and proved that by moving ahead of Paymah as a 3-97th pick and Paymah 3-77th pick. Also, no long balls thrown on Fox. I think there is some interest in Humza elsewhere also, so if the team is interested in keeping a good base they have, they better try to keep them. I also think with good coaching and really relating to players, this team is good to go. When coaches can’t relate, players don’t paly. You can’t tell me that in last game of 2006, needing that game to make play-offs, that our players couldn’t win that game. They didn’t want to, since coaches had given up while 7-4 and inserting Jay and suspect calling in other games, as well as inconsistent use of players. I think the same happen this year, excellent players, good leading the team to compete weekly. 97-98 is over. This is now, dealing with players is different and requires better communication and motivation strategies with players. So while I’m not a “get-rid-of-shanny” person, some change in leading is needed just as some players. Shanny didn’t take the team anywhere; the players did.

]]> By: cloud of dust http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12207 cloud of dust Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:11:21 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12207 I like Kenny Phillips in the 1st round and Hamzah will be fine, a DT in the second, get rid of Javon (who has been on the field for 20 of 50 games in three years), re-structure Travis Henry, draft an OLB and a running back and some depth at the O line spots. Don't count on Al Wilson comig back to Denver-keep DJ in the middle. I can see Karl Dorrell back on the offensive side and so long the dinger-he moves around a lot. Cutler will be a top five QB very soon. A #2 wide receiver is of concern as Brandon Stokely is a great #3. While I am on a roll-2009 will be our year as SD and Indy will fade a bit. Who knows about NE, unbelievable consistency. And is there anyone Mark Kisla thinks should not be fired? And Jim Armstrong should back off the buffet line and quit writing his four paragrapgh columns on a cocktail napkin. Who is available out there better than Shanahan at the moment? He took Jake and the Browncos to the AFC Championship just two years ago. And does Foxworth always arrive just a second too late to make a play? Quality guy but w/o great instincts. I like Kenny Phillips in the 1st round and Hamzah will be fine, a DT in the second, get rid of Javon (who has been on the field for 20 of 50 games in three years), re-structure Travis Henry, draft an OLB and a running back and some depth at the O line spots. Don’t count on Al Wilson comig back to Denver-keep DJ in the middle. I can see Karl Dorrell back on the offensive side and so long the dinger-he moves around a lot. Cutler will be a top five QB very soon. A #2 wide receiver is of concern as Brandon Stokely is a great #3. While I am on a roll-2009 will be our year as SD and Indy will fade a bit. Who knows about NE, unbelievable consistency. And is there anyone Mark Kisla thinks should not be fired? And Jim Armstrong should back off the buffet line and quit writing his four paragrapgh columns on a cocktail napkin. Who is available out there better than Shanahan at the moment? He took Jake and the Browncos to the AFC Championship just two years ago. And does Foxworth always arrive just a second too late to make a play? Quality guy but w/o great instincts.

]]> By: ncheel2 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12206 ncheel2 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:53:21 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12206 Again some of you are talking over your heads. These guys are premier players. They know that they have to improve their game. I'm excited about having the majority of them back, especially Champ, Fox, Dre, Humza, the new linemen drafted in 07 and of course Lynch. The defence was in the top 10 in 05 and 06, and dropped a little towards the end in 06, but certainly took a dip in 07. Why, not because these players are bad, maybe because they were not coached well enough. When I look at how Fox played every position in the secondary, and given his excellent cover and tacking skills when he's on the field, he's best at corner and nickle. In fact, he should be starting on a team now. Humza is great and if he's not back there, this shows lack of commitment to keeping and developing good players. I don't claim to know all, but with John, Champ and Dre allong with Humza, Fox and Paymah, they should be as good as 05. Getting time on the field is the most important thing. I think is the Bronx are not talking about more playing time, and being straight with the players, they lose some. Gold is still good and so is DJ. Offense needs some work also, as we are too predictable and have not stretched the field that much in a few years. We don't have someone to scare them at times with, and we need to let the offensive coor call the game. Poor coaching ruins players also. I don't hear you folks talking about this much, but this is a bigger part of the probelm- using players right and calling the right play. I'd take Fox and Gold any day on my team. Again some of you are talking over your heads. These guys are premier players. They know that they have to improve their game. I’m excited about having the majority of them back, especially Champ, Fox, Dre, Humza, the new linemen drafted in 07 and of course Lynch. The defence was in the top 10 in 05 and 06, and dropped a little towards the end in 06, but certainly took a dip in 07. Why, not because these players are bad, maybe because they were not coached well enough. When I look at how Fox played every position in the secondary, and given his excellent cover and tacking skills when he’s on the field, he’s best at corner and nickle. In fact, he should be starting on a team now. Humza is great and if he’s not back there, this shows lack of commitment to keeping and developing good players. I don’t claim to know all, but with John, Champ and Dre allong with Humza, Fox and Paymah, they should be as good as 05.

Getting time on the field is the most important thing. I think is the Bronx are not talking about more playing time, and being straight with the players, they lose some. Gold is still good and so is DJ. Offense needs some work also, as we are too predictable and have not stretched the field that much in a few years. We don’t have someone to scare them at times with, and we need to let the offensive coor call the game. Poor coaching ruins players also. I don’t hear you folks talking about this much, but this is a bigger part of the probelm- using players right and calling the right play. I’d take Fox and Gold any day on my team.

]]> By: BroncoBoy2012 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12208 BroncoBoy2012 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:30:02 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12208 I agree with however thinks that we need a safety in the 2nd round. We need to address out d-line first. I agree we need another draft like 2006 but we need it a little better. We got half of what Scheffler can do. He may need to step up for Graham. Cutler did exceptionally well. Marshall has done well (he should be starter). And Dumervil has been awesome right outta the gate. I think we should've kept Dominik Hixon though. Look what he did for the Giants. I agree with however thinks that we need a safety in the 2nd round. We need to address out d-line first.
I agree we need another draft like 2006 but we need it a little better. We got half of what Scheffler can do. He may need to step up for Graham. Cutler did exceptionally well. Marshall has done well (he should be starter). And Dumervil has been awesome right outta the gate. I think we should’ve kept Dominik Hixon though. Look what he did for the Giants.

]]> By: samparnell http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12210 samparnell Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:55:52 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12210 2008=supply of quality safeties thin compared to linebackers of which a tough run-stopping MLB is needed. DT? Aren't several already on hand? It appears the Broncos have multiple 2nd day picks. 1st & 2nd need to be immediate starters. The rest all need to be good enough to make the team...like 2006 draft. Let's have another one like that. 2008=supply of quality safeties thin compared to linebackers of which a tough run-stopping MLB is needed. DT? Aren’t several already on hand? It appears the Broncos have multiple 2nd day picks. 1st & 2nd need to be immediate starters. The rest all need to be good enough to make the team…like 2006 draft. Let’s have another one like that.

]]> By: 15marshallis#1 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12209 15marshallis#1 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:42:40 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12209 I think Abdulah is a preety good safety who will get much better with time. I think that lynch will retire, so we should get a DT in the first round, and a Safety in the second round of the draft, and maybe a receiver in the third or fourth round since walker is ditching us. I think Abdulah is a preety good safety who will get much better with time. I think that lynch will retire, so we should get a DT in the first round, and a Safety in the second round of the draft, and maybe a receiver in the third or fourth round since walker is ditching us.

]]> By: samparnell http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12211 samparnell Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:51:15 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12211 One of Hamza Abdullah's goals for the 2008 season should be more consistent tackling. One of Hamza Abdullah’s goals for the 2008 season should be more consistent tackling.

]]> By: bronx2729 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/comment-page-1/#comment-12212 bronx2729 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:41:27 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2008/01/16/through-the-roster-hamza-abdullah/#comment-12212 Hamza and Kenny Phillups gets me excited! Lynch has lost a step no question. I like Lynch just as much as you all do, but he can't cover and I don't think he will accept a limited roll on the team. I could be wrong. It would be great to have him in there teaching these two one-day stars. In a new system that one-day could be next year with Bly and Bailey back there with them. Abdullah was one of the few players that seemed excited to play and hit along with Dumervil. Paymah has gotten progressively better. I can't say that I saw him get beat deep this year, Bly is good, he came into a bad system and you all want to run him out of town. Why don't you run everyone out, Bailey didn't play much better. Bailey tackles better which is something most corners don't usually have to do as much. We're lucky to have them both. DT is a definite need and this draft is deep. Dre Moore is a monster that could definitely be in the 2nd depending on the combine. Walker seems to want out according to Sharper so maybe we can get another draft pick for another DT in the early rounds. There are going to be a lot of good safeties in next years draft so maybe it would be good to keep Lynch/Ferguson/Abdullah and wait till next year and take DTs in the 1st and 2nd this year. Hamza and Kenny Phillups gets me excited! Lynch has lost a step no question. I like Lynch just as much as you all do, but he can’t cover and I don’t think he will accept a limited roll on the team. I could be wrong. It would be great to have him in there teaching these two one-day stars. In a new system that one-day could be next year with Bly and Bailey back there with them. Abdullah was one of the few players that seemed excited to play and hit along with Dumervil. Paymah has gotten progressively better. I can’t say that I saw him get beat deep this year, Bly is good, he came into a bad system and you all want to run him out of town. Why don’t you run everyone out, Bailey didn’t play much better. Bailey tackles better which is something most corners don’t usually have to do as much. We’re lucky to have them both.
DT is a definite need and this draft is deep. Dre Moore is a monster that could definitely be in the 2nd depending on the combine. Walker seems to want out according to Sharper so maybe we can get another draft pick for another DT in the early rounds. There are going to be a lot of good safeties in next years draft so maybe it would be good to keep Lynch/Ferguson/Abdullah and wait till next year and take DTs in the 1st and 2nd this year.

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