1:14 P.M. MDT: And now, we await the head coach, who is set to sit down at 1:30 p.m. MDT and answer questions one day after the humbling 41-3 loss to the San Diego Chargers. In five-plus years covering this team, I’ve seen two kinds of day-after-game press conferences following defeats of this magnitude (or close to it, since this team hasn’t lost by this many points in over a dozen years):
1) Short answers, quick questions and a five-minute gathering.
2) Lengthy answers — frequently introspective in nature — and questions that feed off these replies, leading to a 30-40-minute session.
I reckon we’ll find out which one is in store soon enough …
1:28 P.M. MDT: The sun came up today. Based on the reactions on message boards, TV stations, radio reports and even people with whom I’ve talked outside of this building today, I was a little stunned.
1:30 P.M. MDT: “Coach will be in in just a second,” announces Jim Saccomano.
1:33 P.M. MDT: Champ Bailey has a quad injury, and he “should be fine” for Pittsburgh, but Tom Nalen and Nate Jackson both suffered season-ending injuries Sunday with a torn biceps muscle and a torn groin, respectively.
1:33 P.M. MDT: Shanahan declined to get into what moves would be made to compensate for the loss of Nalen up front. Chris Myers has center experience from the University of Miami and was a backup at the position during training camp this year.
1:34 P.M. MDT: Shanahan said Nalen’s injury is not career-ending; it requires a four-month recovery time following surgery. He expects Nalen to be ready to go for next season.
1:35 P.M. MDT: On Nate Jackson: “For him to be out of that game, I knew it had to be serious, because he plays hurt, even injured,” Shanahan said. “It’s a bad tear, too, so it will take some time.”
1:36 P.M. MDT: The questions about center keep coming, and Shanahan again declined to get into specifics. He did say, however, that Ben Hamilton would have moved to center if he was healthy, “but that’s not an option, obviously.”
1:37 P.M. MDT: Bailey’s quadriceps injury was not a tear; the MRI was negative. “It’d say it’s sore,” Shanahan said.
1:37 P.M. MDT: Shanahan moves on to discussing the red-zone offense’s struggles — just one score, a field goal, from five possessions that moved inside the San Diego 35-yard-line.
1:38 P.M. MDT: Shanahan says he’s “not worried” about the state of his team going into the bye, and that major changes will not be made to the defense. “We’ve just got to get better at what we’re doing,” he said.
1:39 P.M. MDT: When asked whether he’s had a season similar to this, with the problems on the rushing defense, Shanahan said, “No.”
1:39 P.M. MDT: “It starts with me; I could get them better prepared and I didn’t do a good enough job getting them prepared,” Shanahan said when asked whether the defense’s struggles reflect upon assistant head coach/defense Jim Bates.
1:40 P.M. MDT: “It’s my job to make sure they (the players) feel more comfortable week in and week out. When you get beat like that, you didn’t do a good job.”
1:41 P.M. MDT: The Broncos will practice Tuesday and Wednesday before leaving town for the bye week, he said. “You get plenty of rest … They get plenty of time to rest. We’ve got work to do and we’ll try to get that done in the next couple of days.”
1:41 P.M. MDT: “There were some positives — which we don’t need to get into,” Shanahan said. “I’m encouraged. Even though yesterday wasn’t a good representation about this football team, I’m encouraged.”
1:42 P.M. MDT: There will be both some game preparation and a return to training-camp style fundamentals at practice this week, he said.
1:43 P.M. MDT: “We’ve got to do the little things better, and when you do the little things better, you’ve got a chance to improve.
1:43 P.M. MDT: Offensive-line injuries are more difficult to deal with, he acknowledged, because of the time it requires to learn the position.
1:44 P.M. MDT: “We’re not going to get specific and you can ask the question about 1,000 different ways,” Shanahan said when asked about the linebackers and their role in the run-defense struggles.
1:44 P.M. MDT: On fans leaving early: “I would have left, too.”
1:45 P.M. MDT: Cites Indianapolis’ defense last year as reason to believe that his defense this year can turn around.
1:45 P.M. MDT: Said Travis Henry’s ankle is “fine” after yesterday’s game.
1:46 P.M. MDT: “Any time you use a great player, it hurts you,” Shanahan said of Nalen. “He’s a captain, a great leader, he played three quarters with a torn biceps … There was no way he was going to come out. It gives you an idea of his mental toughness.”
1:47 P.M. MDT: Said that more time will be spent working on snaps so Jay Cutler can get used to his new center — whomever it turns out to be — and vice versa.
1:47 P.M. MDT: Said he’ll have a better feel on Rod Smith’s status at the midway point of the season, and that he’s making strides and jogging right now.
1:48 P.M. MDT: And, that’s it … 15 minutes. Twice as long as the last few weeks, but not the 30-minute end-of-season opus.
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New Coaches are needed. Where is DJ Williams? Trotter would have been nice to have. Did the Broncos let the Raiders wear there uniforms? Hey Mike Shanny that QB sneak is not workin’.
Try a stunt on DEF.and plese play Rice or cut him.
That was most embarrassing loss I have ever witness as a Bronco Fan of 30 years.
Oh yeah have someone put a bag of weed in the end-zone so Travis Henry can get a TD! he must think there is some rubbers in the end-zone that’s why he’s not going in there.
I thought it was big of Mike to put responsibility on himself. His words strike me as a lot more confident than his demeanor, but he compared the team to the Colts of last year with early defensive woes and the Patriots of a few years back who started 1-3 and won the superbowl, so I feel a little better. I mean, if this can be turned around, Mike’s the only pilot I’d want. Tough news on Tom Nalen and Brian Clark.
how does he think we can turn our defense around like the colts. not to take anything away from the colts but they were bad because of injuries and tightened up when bob sanders returned. they play a Cover 2 scheme which is not reliant on talent but speed and assignment. what is our scheme based on, because we went out and thought we acquired eveything we needed. while i dont think the problem is losing and having a bad defense. I think the issue with the fans is that the defense didnt make any adjustments and have gotten progressively worse with each game. We have about as much defensive talent if not more than defenses that are playing well now(Steelers, Bucs, Colts, Raiders). I mean first team ran up the middle, so we stacked the box and yesterday they constantly beat 2 or 3 defenders playing containment around the edge. webster even gave up on one play.
During the press conference how come nobody asked if it were too late to replace the defensive coordinator and special teams coaches? Haven’t we suffered enough already?
-qbronco
I still believe in Mike. He is one of the best coaches in the business. I am sure that we will see improvement. GET ROD IN THE GAME
Ok , I want to know who ripped off our uniforms and kidnaped our players, Please if you could just return our players we will not file any charges and no questions will be asked, Thank you Bronco fans. You can keep the coach.
Mike, Cites Indianapolis’ defense last year as reason to believe that his defense this year can turn around. Does he seem to forget that the Colts Offense can pretty much score on every drive that they make. If the Bronco Offense could score every trip to the Red Zone I could care less how bad our Defense is but this is not the case….They should go back to basics and practice Red Zone-Scoring and the Defense needs to learn how to tackle…
this has me worried:Shanahan says he’s “not worried” about the state of his team going into the bye, and that major changes will not be made to the defense. “We’ve just got to get better at what we’re doing,” he said.
im sorry if shanny cannot see there is more to fixing our horrible play on defense then simply getting better at what we are doing
you practise to get better….you get better in a good system each week, new players adapt to a new scheme ….you dont however steadily get worse each and every week in a scheme that works and simpley needs to be tweeked a bit
Shanny is acting like an insane person
the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again, expecting different results
Shanny, if you keep doing the same thing since training camp and you get WORSE, obviously something is wrong
What kind of things did he see that is encouraging??
Hotter cheerleaders?? b/c obviously it wasn’t in the game play
That is Einstein’s definition of insanity, not medicine’s.
I’ve been biting my lip every game this year, including the preseason. Is it just me or are the Broncos being outplayed in every phase of the game? The defensive schemes have not worked, the special teams are absolutely horrible, the play calling on offense is quite offensive. The Broncos are being out-played, out-hit, out-coached. I even suggest they start wearing “pink” uniforms with flags. They are unwilling to aggressively hit their opponents and, worse yet, seem to fumble every time they take a hit. I’ve been a fan for forty years and have never been so ashamed of a team Denver has fielded. I feel sorry for the fans. They put out good hard earned money to support a team which by all accounts underachieves and packs it in when a little adversity comes their way. The fans have earned the right to boo at games, just like I do sitting at home. I blame the ownership, the management, the coaches, and the players. They look and play soft (not a good combination in today’s NFL). It’s time to bring toughness back to the mile high city. Shanahan hasn’t gotten it done since John Elway and Terrell Davis. It’s time for a change!!! I’m not jumping off the band wagon, I’m trying to give it a boost.
I’ve never seen Shanny make a rash decision, I’m NOT AT ALL impressed with the defensive scheme, BUT… if this is the whomping they needed to get things right, then ok. But, i’d say if changes aren’t made and made fast. Then someone needs to do something more than just “working on little things.” These guys are pros, they KNOW how to tackle, they KNOW how to wrap up. They don’t know where they’re supposed to be or doing. Poor planning. Yes, we have FAST linebackers… but too many times they’ve been on receivers… uh hello?? And where is the physicality? You’ve got five yards, bump Dallas Clark, bump Gates.. and PLEASE bump Gonzales or of COURSE they will be open the in the flat… sheesh. And where are the blitzes? Oh, wait, we can’t blitz because DJ and Ian are 20 yards back in coverage… my mistake. Someone PLEASE take the leashes off of Rice, Moss and Dumervil… teasing a dog by putting a juicy steak (QB’s) that close and “making them be patient” will only make them mad.
Anyone who has sean the Broncos play should see that the issues are not limited to the Defense (as pitiful as it has been) the whole team lacks fire and spirit. Mike needs to pull it together and the team leaders need to pick it up. This team has not been much since Kubiak left for Houston. The coaching staff needs to look in the miror and get to work.
I believe also it has to do with the team being soft or just being physically outplayed by other teams. I say go back to pads everyday of practise. Nobody gets the day off inculding Sam Adams. We need to hit everyday and be physical everyday. We wouldnt be fumbling as much if these receivers were use to getting hit. We would cause more turnovers or have defenders flying to the ball if they were use to cracking heads at practise everyday. Time to man up…shannhan has always been known as a finesee coach, maybe the def we play calls for a different approach in practise. Man UP Please, I cant take these losses week in and week out
Thoughts and prayers to Tom Nalen and Nate Jackson.
I also agree that the passion and aggressiveness has not been with the Broncos in the past few years. It seems that since MikeS got his 2 SuperBowl rings he just is not the same anymore. Are you listening Pat Bowlen and Ted Sundquist, I sure hope so. If we go 2-6 I think it’s time to start looking for some coaching changes.
Mike Shanahan has admitted his faults and we all should just move on. I still can’t fathom the idea of 41 points but it is now in the past but we can improve how we play in the future. Sounds like Shanahan possibly knows something that we don’t that he feels he’s not worried. But I do expect to see a whole new football team when the bye week is over. I expect us to score in the red zone no problem, I expect our defense to tackle & simply defend our team from the opponent scoring. I expect the world out of this team post bye week so I’m still keeping my faith with them. I was born & raised a Bronco fan so I’m not going to abandon them after 20 years b/c of one game. We have the rest of the season to look forward to. We can make this happen and we can change.
Another major thing is that, we’re beginning to play with a whole new football team. Those of us who have watched the Broncos play through the ’90s should know by now we’re no longer in the John Elway era anymore. After yesterday, it’s finally hit me. Yeah, we still have some phenomenal players from then but the majority of our team now has 5 or less years of experience. We have to get used to having a whole new team and that’s going to take a couple of years of getting used to. Cutler will do some great things for & with this team but it won’t happen in the blink of an eye. Elway would be the first to tell him & us agonizing fans that victory has to be earned. We have to adjust to new faces on the team. We are very capable of winning every game we play but we have to apply ourselves. And just b/c Cutler is the QB doesn’t mean every little detail is his fault. He’s not perfect but he’s not the only person to blame either. Shanahan said it himself that he should have done a better job — at least give the man credit for admitting his faults.
I would much rather suffer now than just be handed wins — i want to earn them. I don’t want us to lose like we did, that was just embarrassing, but when we become a GREAT football team I want every win to be earned & whenever we go the Super Bowl again I want that to be earned. Elway is your most prime example of how earning something is more rewarding than it just being handed to you. He led our team to 4 Super Bowls but never won but at the end of his phenomenal career he finally got & earned what he wanted his whole life. Winning doesn’t come out of the sky you have to go up & reach it to get it. We will come out this era that we’re going through as far as playing football that is painful to watch. Shanahan & Elway were not only good together on the team but they were very close as friends… more like Elway was a son to Shanahan. They had a bond that could not be broken no matter what. Shanahan & Cutler need that… they need a tie between them that shows the bond not only for them but for this team.
Signing off: GO BRONCOS!!!!
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The broncos cannot seem to put points on the board other than field goals. They have been out scored in the second half of every game they have played. I would not place the burden of poor play on the defense alone, I have watched a young Quarterback try QB sneeks two weeks in a row and not gain an inch. I believe that this one day star should take second string position to maybe someone that has enough poise to come out for the second half. He is NO john Elway, and in my viewing of this young man last year and this year, he would have to play for several more years to be equal to the second year Elway. Having played football, it is hard to get up for games when the offense didn’t show up for the game. Put a great deal of what is happening to the Broncos equally on the fact the offense is not performed when needed.
2-3…I don’t even know what to say.
I hate to disagree with Donuts but wasn’t the 3 Superbowl losses in the 80’s all worse than a regular season loss in week 5 of the regular season? Painful, embarrassing and not putting aside that we were out played at every aspect the game has to offer, it is still only week 5. Changes need to be made and it is true we are not a good football team right now. But I still can’t watch the NFL channel when they play any of those 3 games.
I won’t give up on Shanny just yet but if he can’t make the changes and he can’t turn this around where it is at least a respectable year then maybe I will at that time ready to admit that he needs replaced. Right now however I refuse to drive the last nail in the coffin. 2 and 3 and with proper adjustments we can still win the division…a weak division at best but we can win it.
Sorry about Tom and Nate. Its hard to imagine that offensive line without our mainstay in Nalen.
My biggest gripe with the defensive scheme is watching linebackers trying to cover their go-to guys. News Flash . . .. Ian Gold cannot cover Clark or Gates!!! It doesn’t take a genious to know that. So put Foxworth in as the nickelback every play to cover the TE’s/RB’s that keep getting open.
Then tell Dre and Champ that stopping the run isn’t their responsibility. Leave them completely free to cover the receivers. (The reason they were beat so often is because they keep biting on play action, or trying to fill gaps that the front 7 are missing)
Then depending on the offensive formation we’ve got either Lynch, Ferfuson, or Foxworth that can help cover (the middle in particular) sometimes, but mostly need to be free to blitz the heck out of the opposition and fill the missed gaps.
Obviously the front 7 we have are not filling gaps, so until they do, maybe we need a front 8 or 9.
As far as offense goes . . . please teach people how to hold on to the ball!!
I did see one bright spot . . . Martinez. I’ve been impressed with him since preseason and want to see more of him. Not only is he as good as Marshall, he controls his emotions and doesn’t have the mouth and attitude that Marshall does.
It is a sad day in Bronco land but this may be the wake up call we’ve needed. We could be 0-5 right now so I hope the whole team looks in the mirror and decides to right the ship. Hell, to make things worse yesterday I got stuck with two fradulent tickets I bought on the 50 yard line on E-Bay. The police officer found me a couple on the third tier to buy so I could watch the worst game ever. To think I flew in from Idaho for that. Wow, what a fricking day!
NO PLEASE Not Nate Jackson again !!!
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The lost of our Team Yesterday really sucks…But to read that Jax is
hurting and out for Saison makes me wanna cry.
All the best to him, that he gets well as soon as possible.
danso,
I want to hear more about the e-bay tickets. I think I almost bought them.
Come on Andrew, even your fellow journalists are admitting it:
Bernie Lincicome: “If Shanahan took the blame for this, it is the least he could do. His handling of Cutler so far has progressed to Cutler getting no touchdowns at all instead of his usual one or two. The crowd, had it bothered to stick around, couldn’t even yell for a new quarterback. If it did, the chant would be something like, “Send in what’s-his-name.” Cutler is the course Shanahan has chosen, and if he never imagined it could be this bad, this bad it is. And not getting any better.”
RIGHT ON BERNIE!
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Dang, what a bunch of fair weather fans, we lose 3 games and everyone is wanting to replace the coach, burn the stadium,,,give it a rest, we will turn it around, anyone that has followed the Broncos for any time at all knows we have these spells occasionally. It could be worse, you could be in New Orleans.
HEART?
That loss yesterday has been ringing in my head over & over again. I hope it is through the players all the way up. Shocked & disgusted I had to go to work with Dallas fans & Oakland is the Div. leader. There isn’t much to be said that hasn’t already. The talent is there but the HEART isn’t & thats coaching. I will never give up on the Broncos, but I am looking at college players elligble for the draft until I see players playing with HEART!
BATES- change the scheme to fit the players, not try to make players fit your
scheme- that’s what make a great coach.
HEIMINDINGER- I know what plays your unfortunately going to call. It’s
obvious to me and apparently to other teams. Its boring & frustrating,
especially with the talent we have.
VAUNTED SPT’s COACH- I don’t even know, but it’s not working!
SHANNAHAN- Find the HEART on that team and start calling the plays.
PLAYERS- The only players I see out there that seem to care if they win &
are playing with HEART are Jay Cutler, Elvis Dumervil, Brandon Marhall,
Tony Scheffler, Selvin Young & Ferguson.
I watched every second of that game all the way to the last tick Brandon Marshall cheering with all my HEART what there was to cheer for. I cant remember the last game in 20 years I missed and this is the most shocking and HEART breaking SEASON (0-5 easy) so far I have witnessed. Not because your losing, but because your not playing with HEART!
Die Hard Broncos Fan! Die hards never say DIE, but your dead without HEART!
Turn it around! GO BRONCOS!
I’m sure no one wants to hear this right now, but I think Michael Turner would look mighty good in a Broncos uniform next year… Lonewolf said something that has been bothering me all season: when I watch the team, I don’t see a whole lot of passion out there. On most plays, the body language looks like people are just working for a paycheck, and have no passion to win. Of course it’s not that way for every player on every play, but overall I don’t feel like I’ve been seeing the competitive fire that Al Wilson, Rod Smith, and (everyone is going to hate me for this, but it’s true) Jake Plummer had. How does everyone else feel? Am I crazy, or are you guys seeing some of that too?
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Here are two easy fixes that will help start the healing process;
A) Offense, learn how to hold on to a football, you may want to try to do this in one of the following ways; sleep with your football, type one handed at the computer while holding the football, hike up a mountain (we have plenty of those here) with a football, pretend the football is your baby (for Travis Henry that shouldn’t be hard) and don’t drop it ever!
B) Defense, learn how to tackle — Even if Big Al Wilson couldn’t play bring him in to show you proper tackling technique. (Cause apparently you have forgotten how to in his absence). Also a good step would be to fire this Jim Bates character like ASAP, what exactly is his “system” anyhow — just stand there and let opponents blow right through you. Bring back Greg Robinson, he may have done some dumb things sometimes, but the game was dictated to him by the offense. His so called system has done nothing but jacked up our really good players. Also NO ONE unless your legs are gushing blood should be sitting out of practice, I am a swim coach & I don’t let my swimmers sit out just because they are fat or have been in there sport so long they thing they deserve it (i.e. Adams).
Some other side notes, I heard Brandon Marshall was whining when the fans left after the Chargers went up 34-3, even going so far as to say when the Rockies are down people don’t leave… Well Brandon, sorry your Broncos are NOT the Rockies (who by the way came close to outscoring you guys on Saturday, they had two points and you only had three, except they actually scored more…) The reason the people don’t leave when the Rockies are down is because you expect them to bounce back… not fumble, (which you yourself did), make dumb plays or not stop anyone with there defense. It’s not called being a fair weather fan it’s called common sense. Why would anyone want to sit out in freezing weather to watch there favorite team get DOMINATED in every phase of the game, does that sound like a fun weekend to you? Yeah, me either. Please don’t ever compare yourself to the Rockies ever again and may God have mercy on your soul. This team is not doing well, it’s time to point fingers and name names, cause the chickens should be coming home to roost. If Mike doesn’t do something soon, he may not have to deal with Pat Bowlen, but as I know as one of my friends is an owner in his own company, your clients are the ones that dictate your success, not the owner.
I agree with LPP. Cutler was supposed to be the “answer” to get us over the hump. I am not ready for 3-5 years of rebuilding. Griese was not the answer, neither is Jay. I am truly sickened by how talented of a team we have and how crappy they have managed to play. There is not a few “tweaks” we need to make. The defensive system is not working, neither is the offense. Shanny had better turn it around or he needs to look for a new job!!!
i also think that one must not tell mike shanahan to jump ship. like someone said in another reply, when dan reeves was coach was when some of those embarrassing superbowl losses of the 80s took place. i think also the coach can only do so much if the players are plaqued with injuries, and the offense and defense are both lacking. i have been a bronco fan since 1978, and we are no longer in the elway years and many of the best players from the 90s era have retired and now it is a rebuilding process which can be painful and long.
Wah wah wah! Did everyone really think we were going to start the season off any different? New faces, new scheme, new coordinator. Adjustments don’t happen over night people.
Real fans wouldn’t be throwing in the towel right now! You stick with your team through thick and thin.
LetPlummerPlay - Did you watch the game - it isn’t Jay’s fault that his receivers are dropping/fumbling the ball - the one bad throw he had got picked when he didn’t look off/see the safety on the deep ball to Marshall; Plummer would have been good for four or five picks to go along with all of the fumbles - I’m glad we have the young gunslinger back there! It’s time the Broncos get bucking mad and prepare to kick the steel can/curtain!
What a great time for a bye! Go Broncos!
Hey Rev….I WATCH every game. I’m not sure where I said Jake would have beaten the Chargers yesterday, yet countless news journalists said HE WOULD HAVE. As a matter of fact, ESPN themselves said Jake’s Broncos ALWAYS beat SD at home, so there ya go.
But go on, keep rooting for Shanahan and Jay and their now combined record of 4 wins, and 6 losses.
JAKE PLUMMER NEVER HAD THE BRONCOS at .500 after the 2nd game of any season.
The Broncos now sit at below .500 and very well should be 0 and 5 right now.
Okay Andrew,
Will you do me a favor and for me ask the team when they are going to start to play for Damion Nash, and Derrent Williams. Right after Clark fumbled on the kick return and they returend it for a touchdown I saw Jay Cutler beat. Jay didnt look like a guy thinking we can still win this game, but more like a guy that was like why should I have to try if were going to loose anyway. I still think Jay is a very good QB, and I hope that he will realize he is the one in the huddle leading the team (now as the only captin left), and I hope he starts to talk to his team when we are down vs. sitting on the sideline by himself. Who is yeling at the team saying “we arent beat yet”? That person needs to be Jay… I really miss the intensity that I feel Al Wilson made our team play with when he was the leader. For Al wasnt am I doinit g my job, it was are we doing our job’s… I still have faith in this season, and know we have the talent to make a run for the super bowl. I just dont know if that talent has the drive, and so I ask were are we going to get that leader that drives us. Any Broncos reading this (i doubt they do but oh well) you have the opertunity to be as loved as Al Wilson just by leading the team… Champ, and John cant lead on their own…
This team has looked bad all year, and it does not look like it’s getting better. I do not think Shanny is being honest - he better be worried, we are all worried.
I am not a ‘fair-weather’ fan, but this kind of play makes me think that big changes are needed. I love the Broncos, but one play-off win in 9 years??? Worst home loss in over 40 years??? Someone not’s getting the job done - and who’s been calling the shots for these 9 years?
If this is what Mr. Shanahan believes then he needs to leave because this is a team of players and coaches living in an alternate reality.. ..2 Days of practice, what the h***?!?!?!?!?! This team needs 2 a days for the whole bye and then more, much more.
Plummer is not playing anymore because he sucks. He cost us the AFC Championship game a few years back making stupid boneheaded plays. Any QB that tries to make a left handed throw inside your own five yard line (see Kansas City a few years back) should not be playing.
Everyone has to remember that even Peyton Manning was 3-13 in his first season. Cutler hasn’t even played 16 games yet. Last season he was put in a horrible position because Plummer couldn’t come through in the clutch. What is the point of making it into the playoffs to get drilled with Plummer as the QB anyway; we should just let the young kid learn.
Regardless, the problem is the play calling in the red zone on offense, and a lack of heart, passion and pride on defense. Nobody can tackle, and they are standing around laughing while the Chargers celebrate in the end zone. What is the deal with this Martinez guy, calling him passionate. I call him an idiot; why are you celebrating first downs when your losing 41-3, amazing to me that it has come to this…
I’m glad the Broncos went out this offseason and spent all their money on a drug-addicted 28 year old with nine illegitimate children. Awesome!! It’s good to see that money going to support Henry’s marijuana addiction and not supporting a defensive lineman or two!!!
Nalen is a tough loss! Just like last year with Lepsis. I wish our Off line would play both ways!!! They got heart! They couldn’t be worse!!
For those of you that think that Plummer should still be the QB of this team… cram it! Jake Plummer was a singularly over rated player coming out of college. He had no focus, could never go through his progressions and stopped trying to win the second the ‘06 season started. You ask any defensive coordinator and he’ll tell you the same thing. If you cover Plummers number 1 option and force him into going through his progressions he would throw an Int or find another way to self destruct. Why don’t you guy’s go back to the tapes of the beginning of the ‘06 season and watch how he was playing. It was an insult and Shanahan had had enough of over simplifying the offense just so Plummer could complete a pass. I can show you ten passes this year that Cutler has made that Plummer would have had intercepted, no questions asked. At any rate the argument is a mute point. Jake Plummer has as much chance of playing for the Denver Broncos as LPP has of making a constructive comment. And to OrangeCrush17 your right on. Payton’s numbers were not even close to Cutlers first eight starts. In fact the reaction that the Colts fans had to Manning’s first three years in Indy were terrible. Plummer was given chance after chance and he fizzled and popped like the party favor he was. Cutler will pass the test of time! Even Elway had a terrible first year, the guy couldn’t manage to line up under center correctly in his first year, and yes this is still Cutler’s first year.
And as for the “experts” who are implying Plummer would be playing better than Cutler is now, are these the same masterminds that said the Chargers and the Saints were the teams to beat this year. I thought so.
The Broncos can fix this! Lets give them the two weeks then see where they sit. With that much time things will either be better then they were or they won’t. If their not then I think we can logistically say it’s not going to happen this year but it still doesn’t mean we stop supporting our Broncos.
Mike in San Diego
I agree that Cutler has all the physical tools. I also agree that we need to expect it will take Cutler some time to grow into a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback. My question, since I live in a different time zone and only get to watch the nationally televised games…and only then until CBS applies their version of the mercy rule…is this: Does Cutler appear to lack the burning desire to win you expect of competitors? He appears bored every time I see him on television. He seems not very passionate about the game, whether the team is winning or losing. Is this just what I’m seeing on TV, or are those fans who go to the games in person seeing the same thing? I hope I’m wrong, and I hope Cutler turns into one of the great ones, but that will obviously take time…
Memo to Let Wilson Play and the rest of you bandwagon fans,
Brandon Marshall was right–all these Band Wagon Rockies fans weren’t anywhere near Coors Field until about September 15th. Prior to the last two months or so, the Rockies weren’t doing much coming back, all they were doing was getting pummeled on a daily basis. For the last 10 years finding it has been easier to find a soccer fan in America than a Rockies fan in Colorado.
So, if you don’t want to ride with the team (i.e. the Broncos) when they are down, do me and the rest of the “real” Bronco fans and don’t bother to show up on game day–I’ve been calling for a big-time shuffle in the season ticket holder ranks for awhile now. There’s a lot of people that do want those seats.
And as long as people are getting fired up, why do we always have to resort to calling Plummer names and talking about how “terrible” he was? Yes, he is gone now, and yes, he made some incredibly stupid plays. (If Favre makes those same plays, he is “having fun” and “letting it all hang out”, but I digress.) The fact remains, though, that Plummer won many more games than he lost while he was a Bronco. He had one of the best seasons, statistically, by a Broncos quarterback (although the 20 ints that same year kind of hurt). He is the only qb since Elway retired to help the Broncos make it to the AFC Championship game. He made plenty of mistakes, on and off the field, but he always seemed to be a great teammate who obviously cared about his team, and he was a competitor who always gave his all to the team we all love. Here’s hoping Cutler ends up being MUCH better, but Plummer wasn’t all bad.
@#%@! what a lot we have to (complain) about eh?
Bottom line Time.
It’s HARD to win in this league!
We didn’t win for YEARS & YEARS!!
In a year where hopes were high if our young talent played well, we can’t afford the injuries that are really stacking up…
Shanny will pull the offense together…
Give Bates the next two games and then FIRE him for his lack of flexability at the very least!!!
PLEASE??
GAWD do ever miss AL Wilson………………………………………………………………………………………………
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