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]]> By: broncofan4eva http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-704 broncofan4eva Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:13:23 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-704 All of you Plummer haters do know now Denver could have broke a losing streak against the Seahawks if Plummer was playing... The only thing sadder than Cutlers performance was Wilson getting hurt.... I just hope Wilson is ok, and is back to 100%. We're gonna need him. All of you Plummer haters do know now Denver could have broke a losing streak against the Seahawks if Plummer was playing… The only thing sadder than Cutlers performance was Wilson getting hurt…. I just hope Wilson is ok, and is back to 100%. We’re gonna need him.

]]> By: leebov http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-703 leebov Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:31:19 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-703 I have been a Broncos fan for alwmost 19 years now and this is the first itme that I was glad to see them lose. Mike Shanahan doesn't look comfortable at all. Something is wrong with him... I have been saying the whole season that Jake is not the problem and i stand by it . They wont win the superbowl with Plummer at qb this year but with Cutler at QB they might not even win another game. He should have sticked by the plan and let Plummer go at the end of the year. My assesment of Plummer is that he is a very good and competitive QB who can bring a team to the playoffs... He's not Brady or Manning, heck who is..... Did anyone notice how many time Cutler got sacked or how much confidence Shanny had in Cutler's passing ability. I remember the Bubby Brister, Frerotte, Brian Griese years when the Broncos were struggling to win 8 games let alone make the playoffs. There was a span of 3 to 4 years where man we sucked. In came Plummer and just like that the Broncos became at minimum a 10 win team and last year 13 win plus a conference championship. Only one team can win the Superbowl!!!! Before the 1997 season the Broncos had never done it. It took 32 superbowls, 32 plus years...... What Plummer gives this team is hope or a chance. And as fans thats what we ask for achance of our team to win. Sorry Shanahan this time you are wrong admit it, apologize to the team and put Plummer back. Let Cutler start next year when he was sopposed to. If Cutler plays broncos lose by 20+ If Plummer plays the game is a tossup... I prefer thechance of maybe winning.. I have been a Broncos fan for alwmost 19 years now and this is the first itme that I was glad to see them lose. Mike Shanahan doesn’t look comfortable at all. Something is wrong with him… I have been saying the whole season that Jake is not the problem and i stand by it . They wont win the superbowl with Plummer at qb this year but with Cutler at QB they might not even win another game. He should have sticked by the plan and let Plummer go at the end of the year. My assesment of Plummer is that he is a very good and competitive QB who can bring a team to the playoffs… He’s not Brady or Manning, heck who is….. Did anyone notice how many time Cutler got sacked or how much confidence Shanny had in Cutler’s passing ability. I remember the Bubby Brister, Frerotte, Brian Griese years when the Broncos were struggling to win 8 games let alone make the playoffs. There was a span of 3 to 4 years where man we sucked. In came Plummer and just like that the Broncos became at minimum a 10 win team and last year 13 win plus a conference championship. Only one team can win the Superbowl!!!! Before the 1997 season the Broncos had never done it. It took 32 superbowls, 32 plus years……

What Plummer gives this team is hope or a chance. And as fans thats what we ask for achance of our team to win.

Sorry Shanahan this time you are wrong admit it, apologize to the team and put Plummer back. Let Cutler start next year when he was sopposed to.

If Cutler plays broncos lose by 20+
If Plummer plays the game is a tossup… I prefer thechance of maybe winning..

]]> By: Ebeneezer http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-702 Ebeneezer Sat, 02 Dec 2006 21:12:53 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-702 I grew up in Colorado as a Broncos fan, it wasn't always easy! It wasn't the glory years for most of Elway's career either but when he showed up it was electrifying to see his third and fourth quarter rallies. In retrospect we see that he elevated a mediocre team for most of his career mostly as a leader and have supporting cast at the end. Comparisons are not fair to Plummer as he is has strengths and weaknesses that aren't comparable that comparison only shows ignorance to the game, Elway was Elway and there will never be another. Plummer is a great QB as pointed out, and would be an asset to many teams I don't think he is done but you don't get younger or stronger. I think that the only real problem for him is spending his peak forming and athletic years learning bad habits and developing a chip for his shoulder. He could work things out I am sure of it, last year was a glimpse at what he is really capable of, it is true that the pressure seems to effect him but he has shown that he can maintain as well. Ultimately it falls on what the coaches see in his weekly progression. More than the stats show it is how Plummer has looked through the season, he has been more uncomfortable this year, he isn't showing confidence. It is something that is less tangible therefore not really quantifiable the numbers are what they are, it's the way he looks while he plays, Jake is hurting, for lack of a better term. There are going to be hiccups until the reintegration of the offense is complete, missing Kubiak is obvious. Shannahan will pull it together, I know he will! I cannot believe he is taking so much flack, how can true fans be so critical? Of either of these guys? As a true fan you have to support these competitors WHEN WE WIN AND WHEN WE LOSE! I apologize for the shouting but that critical stuff is unnecessary and not conducive to spirit of the game we all love. At its root what I love most about football, and what I loved most when I played in high school are good plays. Good old fashioned well executed plays! Where the poise on the field exudes confidence and the thrill is carried on to the field! That is the beauty of the competition and pinnacle of play in football can that not be agreed? Bowlen is an excellent owner, Shannahan is an excellent coach, we are fortunate to be witnessing a highpoint in Broncos history and should be nothing less than proud to be a part of it as fans of the coolest football team! Go BRONCOS! I grew up in Colorado as a Broncos fan, it wasn’t always easy! It wasn’t the glory years for most of Elway’s career either but when he showed up it was electrifying to see his third and fourth quarter rallies. In retrospect we see that he elevated a mediocre team for most of his career mostly as a leader and have supporting cast at the end. Comparisons are not fair to Plummer as he is has strengths and weaknesses that aren’t comparable that comparison only shows ignorance to the game, Elway was Elway and there will never be another. Plummer is a great QB as pointed out, and would be an asset to many teams I don’t think he is done but you don’t get younger or stronger. I think that the only real problem for him is spending his peak forming and athletic years learning bad habits and developing a chip for his shoulder. He could work things out I am sure of it, last year was a glimpse at what he is really capable of, it is true that the pressure seems to effect him but he has shown that he can maintain as well. Ultimately it falls on what the coaches see in his weekly progression. More than the stats show it is how Plummer has looked through the season, he has been more uncomfortable this year, he isn’t showing confidence. It is something that is less tangible therefore not really quantifiable the numbers are what they are, it’s the way he looks while he plays, Jake is hurting, for lack of a better term. There are going to be hiccups until the reintegration of the offense is complete, missing Kubiak is obvious. Shannahan will pull it together, I know he will! I cannot believe he is taking so much flack, how can true fans be so critical? Of either of these guys? As a true fan you have to support these competitors WHEN WE WIN AND WHEN WE LOSE! I apologize for the shouting but that critical stuff is unnecessary and not conducive to spirit of the game we all love. At its root what I love most about football, and what I loved most when I played in high school are good plays. Good old fashioned well executed plays! Where the poise on the field exudes confidence and the thrill is carried on to the field! That is the beauty of the competition and pinnacle of play in football can that not be agreed? Bowlen is an excellent owner, Shannahan is an excellent coach, we are fortunate to be witnessing a highpoint in Broncos history and should be nothing less than proud to be a part of it as fans of the coolest football team!

Go BRONCOS!

]]> By: muffcon350 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-701 muffcon350 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:24:53 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-701 Yes, its true, we have faced some of the best teams in the NFL over the past few weeks. But we really haven't beaten any one very good all season. 4 of the 7 teams we have beaten are under .500 right now. We barely beat the RAIDERS both times we played them. And we lost to another under .500 team in the Rams. Yes it is true that we have more than one area to improve on before the start of next years season. As I said befor, I do think the most important is at the running back position, but lets look at the other positions. Obviously we need to improve our defensive front. We have five defensive ends. One of which is Courtney Brown, who has only finished about 3 seasons in his career. Even when he plays, he really doesn't get after the QB very much. One thing he is very good at is stopping the run. His trade value isn't very high; maybe worth a mediocore draft pick. Our best pass rusher is by far Elvis Dumervil, who leads the team in sacks despite only getting to play in 8 games. He is tied with Lang, but Lang has played in all 11 games. We do need a good aggressive defensive lineman, preferably a DT but a DE would also work. Whether it comes about in the draft or through a trade, we need someone there desperately. We are also in need of some good depth at the safety position. Most people dont realize it, but we have been playing this hard stretch of a schedule without a strong safety at all. Nick Ferguson and Sam Brandon are both out for the season. They will be able to play next season, but there is also a matter of how many more years will John Lynch be around. There are plenty of good solid safeties entering the draft this year. As I mentioned befor, I think Zbikowsky from Notre Dame would fit in very well. He is not only tough and aggressive, but he has good speed to him as well. That fact has also made him one of the best return men in college football this year. Return men is also a place that we definitley need to improve on. We are dead last in the NFL when it comes to returning punts and kickoffs. Rod Smith, as much as I hate to say it, is beginning to show his age. He has never been the fastest guy in the lineup, but he has always been the most reliable and sure handed. Now, it seems he can't get open very much and has lost the ability to catch passes that he should be able to catch, some of which have been very costly. One guy that could come in and help our passing game out is a guy named Robert Meachum, a WR out of Tennessee. He has good speed, great hands, and most importantly knows how to make plays. He will probably fall to the second round, so there is a possibility of us grabbing him. please post your opinions of areas of need and possible solutions. Yes, its true, we have faced some of the best teams in the NFL over the past few weeks. But we really haven’t beaten any one very good all season. 4 of the 7 teams we have beaten are under .500 right now. We barely beat the RAIDERS both times we played them. And we lost to another under .500 team in the Rams.

Yes it is true that we have more than one area to improve on before the start of next years season. As I said befor, I do think the most important is at the running back position, but lets look at the other positions.

Obviously we need to improve our defensive front. We have five defensive ends. One of which is Courtney Brown, who has only finished about 3 seasons in his career. Even when he plays, he really doesn’t get after the QB very much. One thing he is very good at is stopping the run. His trade value isn’t very high; maybe worth a mediocore draft pick.

Our best pass rusher is by far Elvis Dumervil, who leads the team in sacks despite only getting to play in 8 games. He is tied with Lang, but Lang has played in all 11 games.

We do need a good aggressive defensive lineman, preferably a DT but a DE would also work. Whether it comes about in the draft or through a trade, we need someone there desperately.

We are also in need of some good depth at the safety position. Most people dont realize it, but we have been playing this hard stretch of a schedule without a strong safety at all. Nick Ferguson and Sam Brandon are both out for the season. They will be able to play next season, but there is also a matter of how many more years will John Lynch be around. There are plenty of good solid safeties entering the draft this year. As I mentioned befor, I think Zbikowsky from Notre Dame would fit in very well. He is not only tough and aggressive, but he has good speed to him as well. That fact has also made him one of the best return men in college football this year. Return men is also a place that we definitley need to improve on. We are dead last in the NFL when it comes to returning punts and kickoffs.

Rod Smith, as much as I hate to say it, is beginning to show his age. He has never been the fastest guy in the lineup, but he has always been the most reliable and sure handed. Now, it seems he can’t get open very much and has lost the ability to catch passes that he should be able to catch, some of which have been very costly. One guy that could come in and help our passing game out is a guy named Robert Meachum, a WR out of Tennessee. He has good speed, great hands, and most importantly knows how to make plays. He will probably fall to the second round, so there is a possibility of us grabbing him.

please post your opinions of areas of need and possible solutions.

]]> By: rsm1956 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-700 rsm1956 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:34:37 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-700 LetPlummerPlay needs to read Shanahans bio( see Team then Staff) Shanahan only had John and Terrell for 5 of his 12 years as head coach. And the reason he had Terrell was he picked him. With your kind of thinking nobody who worked their tails off just to get to the NFL ever proved anything if the don't have a ring. Anybody who has made it to the NFL has proved a lot. There are a lot of Hall of Famers that don't have a ring. Have they proved nothing? My suggestion to you is move to whatever city Plummer goes to and compare his stats with some other hall of fame QB LetPlummerPlay needs to read Shanahans bio( see Team then Staff) Shanahan only had John and Terrell for 5 of his 12 years as head coach. And the reason he had Terrell was he picked him. With your kind of thinking nobody who worked their tails off just to get to the NFL ever proved anything if the don’t have a ring. Anybody who has made it to the NFL has proved a lot. There are a lot of Hall of Famers that don’t have a ring. Have they proved nothing? My suggestion to you is move to whatever city Plummer goes to and compare his stats with some other hall of fame QB

]]> By: LetPlummerPlay http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-699 LetPlummerPlay Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:18:17 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-699 Tlynch..... so when you get you're great running back and Manning comes in and PICKS your offense apart like he was playing against a bunch of 8th graders....what will your running back do? Run out and tackle Manning? The Colts have had Denvers numbers for YEARS, they embarrassed us every time we played against them with Manning and so this year, under all the pressure, under all the scrutiny, JAKE puts up 31 points against their defense and what does our defense do to return the favor? They let Indy score 34! A great running back is not what we need, we need a MUCH stronger defense, better wide receivers and better coaching. We were right there last year, 13-3, and we slipped in the end...So we come back this year and finish what we started....because everyone knows you don't fix what's not broken....but Shannahan decided to blow that out of the water by drafting Cutler....I'm not beating a dead horse, I love the BRONCOS more than anything else in my life, but when I see them headed into a tail spin of disaster for years to come, I call it. This decision, actually the decision to draft an unproven QB so high, was the beginning of the end for this franchise....For all you who say Shannahan will stick around for a long time, well if he does it shows Bowlen doesn't know what he's doing....Who in their right mind would keep a coach around for THAT long with never getting back to the big game? Shannahan ought to be thanking his lucky stars for John and Terrel, for he has proven nothing without them. Tlynch….. so when you get you’re great running back and Manning comes in and PICKS your offense apart like he was playing against a bunch of 8th graders….what will your running back do? Run out and tackle Manning? The Colts have had Denvers numbers for YEARS, they embarrassed us every time we played against them with Manning and so this year, under all the pressure, under all the scrutiny, JAKE puts up 31 points against their defense and what does our defense do to return the favor? They let Indy score 34! A great running back is not what we need, we need a MUCH stronger defense, better wide receivers and better coaching. We were right there last year, 13-3, and we slipped in the end…So we come back this year and finish what we started….because everyone knows you don’t fix what’s not broken….but Shannahan decided to blow that out of the water by drafting Cutler….I’m not beating a dead horse, I love the BRONCOS more than anything else in my life, but when I see them headed into a tail spin of disaster for years to come, I call it. This decision, actually the decision to draft an unproven QB so high, was the beginning of the end for this franchise….For all you who say Shannahan will stick around for a long time, well if he does it shows Bowlen doesn’t know what he’s doing….Who in their right mind would keep a coach around for THAT long with never getting back to the big game?

Shannahan ought to be thanking his lucky stars for John and Terrel, for he has proven nothing without them.

]]> By: Broncomaniac84 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-698 Broncomaniac84 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:11:37 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-698 My life is the broncos so hear me out. Jay Cutler is extremely UNDERrated by EVERYone. people are complaining "oohhh he's never won a championship, he won't do anything for the broncos" but friggen open your minds! One: Vanderbilt is an extremly hard school to get into and they don't give scholorships. You have to pay through the ass to get into that school. Two: A championship is not ONLY determined on the play of the QB. and Three: we need something new because Plummer has already thrown more picks than last eyar, seems to have lost the ability to win effectively, and make the difficult throw. If he folds under prssure because we drafted cutler then bring in the new boy. Plummer folded in the AFC Championship and he folded when we drafted cutler so Amen to cutler. Welcome to the team buddy. My life is the broncos so hear me out.

Jay Cutler is extremely UNDERrated by EVERYone. people are complaining “oohhh he’s never won a championship, he won’t do anything for the broncos” but friggen open your minds! One: Vanderbilt is an extremly hard school to get into and they don’t give scholorships. You have to pay through the ass to get into that school. Two: A championship is not ONLY determined on the play of the QB. and Three: we need something new because Plummer has already thrown more picks than last eyar, seems to have lost the ability to win effectively, and make the difficult throw. If he folds under prssure because we drafted cutler then bring in the new boy. Plummer folded in the AFC Championship and he folded when we drafted cutler so Amen to cutler. Welcome to the team buddy.

]]> By: TLynch http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-697 TLynch Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:23:15 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-697 I would never have called for Elway's benching. EVER. I was 7 years old when I watched "The Drive", and I've been able to watch just about every single come from behind magical performance that was John Elway. Maddox who? And I totally do not agree that Shannahan is on his way out...any Bronco fan know that he will be our coach for a long time. Pat Bowlen suffered along with us through those Super Bowl routes, and he wouldn't be ignorant enough to dump the man who brought Denver two titles. Losing Elway and Davis killed us for years, but now we have rebuilt and we have all the tools of a championship team. All we need now is a reliable running back and the Super Bowl is ours for the taking. It could happen as early as next year if we draft right, but I am betting on the year after next so long as we draft an excellent running back in 2007. LetPlummerPlay is foolhardy...you like to beat a dead horse go right ahead. I would rather get the same ineffective, inconsistent play from a rookie first rounder than from a veteran on his way out of Denver. I would never have called for Elway’s benching. EVER. I was 7 years old when I watched “The Drive”, and I’ve been able to watch just about every single come from behind magical performance that was John Elway. Maddox who? And I totally do not agree that Shannahan is on his way out…any Bronco fan know that he will be our coach for a long time. Pat Bowlen suffered along with us through those Super Bowl routes, and he wouldn’t be ignorant enough to dump the man who brought Denver two titles. Losing Elway and Davis killed us for years, but now we have rebuilt and we have all the tools of a championship team. All we need now is a reliable running back and the Super Bowl is ours for the taking. It could happen as early as next year if we draft right, but I am betting on the year after next so long as we draft an excellent running back in 2007. LetPlummerPlay is foolhardy…you like to beat a dead horse go right ahead. I would rather get the same ineffective, inconsistent play from a rookie first rounder than from a veteran on his way out of Denver.

]]> By: broncofan4eva http://blog.denverbroncos.com/archives/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/comment-page-1/#comment-696 broncofan4eva Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:16:33 +0000 http://blog.denverbroncos.com/mason/2006/11/28/offensive-remedy-not-just-the-qb/#comment-696 Plummer bashers need to put themselves in his place. Your head coach says in the beginning of the season "the best QB will start". Your RBs are inconsistant at best, your WRs are dropping balls, and not completing routes, your TE isn't producing like he should... You go home and get to watch on the NFL network how you "should" be replaced by this rookie, the next Manning. Your "fans" are all blaming you for losing games. If I had to deal with that, my morale would be a little down also. Plummer was great last year, why have you given up on him so soon? Also look at the defense.... Also very inconsistant. We had SD in the bag at the end of the half. Then they SCORE 27ish points!?!?!?! That's right, I said SCORE... IE the offense didn't contribute to that. The Defense forgot to come out of the locker room or something. Some things that will happen by next season. If Cutler flops or not, Plummer will be gone. Hell, I'd be gone also if your team has no faith in you. I see no reason to not have faith in him coming off the 05 season. I hope for the teams sake Cutler meets up to everyones expectations. If his performance resembles Plummers, then who will you blame? I also hope you Plummer bashers are keeping up with the broncos site. You will read Cutler himself use words like "rusty" and "missing routes"... And that's in practice. Plummer bashers need to put themselves in his place. Your head coach says in the beginning of the season “the best QB will start”. Your RBs are inconsistant at best, your WRs are dropping balls, and not completing routes, your TE isn’t producing like he should… You go home and get to watch on the NFL network how you “should” be replaced by this rookie, the next Manning. Your “fans” are all blaming you for losing games. If I had to deal with that, my morale would be a little down also. Plummer was great last year, why have you given up on him so soon?

Also look at the defense…. Also very inconsistant. We had SD in the bag at the end of the half. Then they SCORE 27ish points!?!?!?! That’s right, I said SCORE… IE the offense didn’t contribute to that. The Defense forgot to come out of the locker room or something.

Some things that will happen by next season. If Cutler flops or not, Plummer will be gone. Hell, I’d be gone also if your team has no faith in you. I see no reason to not have faith in him coming off the 05 season.

I hope for the teams sake Cutler meets up to everyones expectations. If his performance resembles Plummers, then who will you blame?

I also hope you Plummer bashers are keeping up with the broncos site. You will read Cutler himself use words like “rusty” and “missing routes”… And that’s in practice.

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